2 most common scenario in which BUN is elevated but the creatinine level is normal - it's an important concept I guess : List them : 1. 2.
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09/12/06 - 08:33 AM
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1. GI bleed
2. pre renal azotemia
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09/12/06 - 08:49 AM
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study_ing - GI bleed is correct but explain why do you think 2. choice is pre renal azotemia
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09/12/06 - 08:52 AM
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and also write all the labs for prerenal azotemia....please don't get confused !
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09/12/06 - 08:57 AM
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i think, creatinine has to be increased in prerenal azotemia...it might be a slight increase but it can not be normal . please correct me if i am wrong .
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09/12/06 - 09:05 AM
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hmm increased protein intake..
sorry i mixed up the ratio with the absolute level.
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09/12/06 - 09:29 AM
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The second common scenario where you can see increased BUN without increased creatinine level is the administration of steroids
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09/12/06 - 09:30 AM
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Now tell me in what scenario you would find an Increase in Creatinine without an increase in BUN -- that is also important
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09/12/06 - 09:32 AM
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increased muscle mass
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09/12/06 - 09:57 AM
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hmm, but are you sure that increase in muscle mass doesn't effect Urea levels at all....because i don't know about this
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09/12/06 - 10:00 AM
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what I know is that an isolated increase in Creatinine with normal BUN is a result of some medications like bactrim (Trimethoprim-sulp.), cimitidine etc., which inhibit the secretion of creatinine from renal tubular cells .
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09/12/06 - 10:07 AM
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09/12/06 - 10:11 AM
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thanx
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09/12/06 - 02:06 PM
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urea (with normal creatinine) is also increased in dehydrated patients (common finding i think)
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09/12/06 - 04:32 PM
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Mars-Aris wrote: urea (with normal creatinine) is also increased in dehydrated patients (common finding i think)
In dehydration both urea and creatinine shoud go "up".
