bacteriophage
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Hey,
I am IMG and plans are to pass USMLE and apply for my residency program there. So, here is the situation: I have been invited in US to work in Wound Care Center as researcher or something like that. This is private comnay which is collaborating with Evergreen state College and we decided that it would be easier to issue the visa through Evergreen. I explained them that I am not subject of two year home residency as none of the three conditions (government funding, skills list and graduate med. education) applies to my current position. They told me that that should not be the problem. When I got my visa paperworks I was suprized to see the highlighted words that I am subject of two year home residence requirement. I contacted them again and asked to correct this. in my initial documents for J1 application, I indicated, that I am junior doctor in my country (which is kind of internship in US). I have also another job in reserach institute. They told me that when you indicate to be anyting like doctor in the application, the system automatically checks this requirement. They told me that to change the documents will complicate visa issuing procedures. So the questions are here: 1. How true is that? 2. I can write them about my position in research institute and will the change of my information in the system affect on obtaining of my J1 visa? 3. Will I be able to apply for different type of visa (eg. H1B) if I am under J1 but without the home restriction? 4. Is it real to get the J1 without this restriction in my particular situation? 5. In case if I will have J1 with this restriction, will I be able to change my status into another type of visa (eg. H1B)?
I will appreciate to have the answers to any of these questions. Thanks.
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| bbb
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ECFMG or the agency that issued your visa would be the place to go for the correct answers to your questions (although it may not be the answers that you want)
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| vallia
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If you graduated a medical school you are subject to the 2 years home residency. You can escape from that if you get a waiver, and apply for H1 visa. the department of state can tell you if you are really a subject for the 2 years home.
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| bacteriophage
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vallia wrote:
If you graduated a medical school you are subject to the 2 years home residency. You can escape from that if you get a waiver, and apply for H1 visa. the department of state can tell you if you are really a subject for the 2 years home.
Thanks.You are telling me that if I am International medical graduate I am still subject of this requirement? I have graduated from my medschool in my country, not in US. And do you mean that if I get waiver I will be able to get H1 visa, without coming back to my country for two years?
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| vallia
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yes, that's it as far as I know.
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| katzung
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Ask your employer if they can straight away provide or sponsor H1B visa for you it will save you the headache of getting a waiver,and upon that as far as my limited knowledge goes finding waiver in research is difficult.
But if u plan to apply for residency after the research then the process of changing into clinical J1 is a prolonged one and take anywhere between 3-6 months.
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| bacteriophage
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Thanks to everybody. I just wrote a letter to the officilas who issued the documents for my J1 and asked them to change the documents and information in the system. What do you think, will it make some difficulties in getting this current J1 if they will change my information?
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| bbb
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katzung wrote:
Ask your employer if they can straight away provide or sponsor H1B visa for you it will save you the headache of getting a waiver,and upon that as far as my limited knowledge goes finding waiver in research is difficult.
But if u plan to apply for residency after the research then the process of changing into clinical J1 is a prolonged one and take anywhere between 3-6 months.
I'm not certain for a J1 research visa, but if you are on a J1 clinical - you cannot transfer to an H1b visa.
Check with the attorneys office that prepared your paperwork - they will know the current, and correct, answer.
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| katzung
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yes if you are already on J1 then it cannot be helped (specially clinical) it cannot be changed to H1b under whatever circumstances.
But J1 Research can be changed to J1 Clinical (am not sure about J1 research to H1B though.).
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| bacteriophage
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Do you know know anything about J1 which does not have 2 year home residence requirement? I think if I have this kind of J1 visa, I will be able to change it with another type visa until it expires, right?
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| katzung
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I just heard from some experienced people that as long as you are qualified as a physician no matter whatever category you appply for j1 visa you are required to fulfill 2 year home requirement,so for physicans there is no way out except for waivers..
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| O-pos
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Let's say first you want to make research (2 years), then enroll to general surgery residency (6 years) and then go specific clinical fellowship (2-3 years). It would be very interesting which visas are recommended for each training level. You can't just go to USA and make everything on J-1 (max. duration 7 years) or H-1b (max. duration 6 years) alone. So there should be a combination which will allow you to finish all these trainings without interruption (2 years home residency etc..). Does someone know what's this visa combination? I don't know.. MAybe J1+H1+Green Card application?? Dear BBB, please say something
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| bacteriophage
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O-pos wrote:Let's say first you want to make research (2 years), then enroll to general surgery residency (6 years) and then go specific clinical fellowship (2-3 years). It would be very interesting which visas are recommended for each training level. You can't just go to USA and make everything on J-1 (max. duration 7 years) or H-1b (max. duration 6 years) alone. So there should be a combination which will allow you to finish all these trainings without interruption (2 years home residency etc..). Does someone know what's this visa combination? I don't know.. MAybe J1+H1+Green Card application?? Dear BBB, please say something
That's the combination I think would be most appropriate for my particular case. At least that's what I want to do, but I do not know how real is that. What would you comment BBB?
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| superabood
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so does all types of J visa (as J2 & J1 waiver) is limited in total for 7 years? or 7 years only for J1?
does all the J visa types require 2 years interval B4 changing to H1b?
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| bacteriophage
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superabood wrote:
so does all types of J visa (as J2 & J1 waiver) is limited in total for 7 years? or 7 years only for J1?
does all the J visa types require 2 years interval B4 changing to H1b?
I think any type of J visa needs 2 years interval before changing to H1B. At least this link says the same, if I understant this correctly http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types...
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| peggy
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Hi,
I am new on this forum and it is just awesome!!!
I am exactly in the situation as O-pus described, just starting a postodoctoral fellowship (research) on J1 Visa and wishing to apply for match 2008. Thus, I also do not know exactly about the visa changes - how long does it take to change from J1 research to J1 clinical? Please help!
Thank you!
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| bacteriophage
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peggy wrote:
Hi,
I am new on this forum and it is just awesome!!!
I am exactly in the situation as O-pus described, just starting a postodoctoral fellowship (research) on J1 Visa and wishing to apply for match 2008. Thus, I also do not know exactly about the visa changes - how long does it take to change from J1 research to J1 clinical? Please help!
Thank you!
I am in US already. I got a research J1 visa without 2 year home residence requirement. For now it is clear, that any kind of issue about visa policy depends on particular situation and second, read carefully visa policies of that type you are applying and request everything that is allowed according to the rule. Please, never believe that if you do something that is in rules you will be harmed at all. So, here is the situation with me: I applied for J1 research and saw there that I was subject of this requirement in my DS form. I studied all the possible ways out of this requirement and finally asked to the issuing officer to cancel the visa document and issue the one, who better applies to my situation. She told me that it will jeopardize not even getting this visa, then any kinds of visa I will need to enter in US. All my friends and experienced people told me that it does not worth to cancell that document, or I will need the lawyer to avoid this requirement. Anyway, I asked to the officer to cancell that DS form and issue the another one which better explained my status here. However she refused me for doing that, I assured her about the need and the possibility according to their laws (without help from lawyer) and she did it, but told me that she is not taking any responsibilities whether I get my visa or not. Finally I went to consulate and THEY EVEN DID NOT ASKED ME ANYTHING. They told me that I have good visa history and my visa has been approved (I have 3 previous visits in US under B1), so I am in US right now and today started my work here.
Feel free to ask me any question about my experience.
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| neuro312
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Hi,
I am new in this site. My question will be to bacteriophage.
I am now in the last year of my medical school and next year I will go to US for research (and then, residency). If my boss in US submits the petition for an H1B, can I get an H1B? I mean, is it too difficult to get an H1B?
Thanks a lot!!
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| bacteriophage
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neuro312 wrote:Hi, I am new in this site. My question will be to bacteriophage. I am now in the last year of my medical school and next year I will go to US for research (and then, residency). If my boss in US submits the petition for an H1B, can I get an H1B? I mean, is it too difficult to get an H1B? Thanks a lot!!
The only you need to get for obtaining H1B visa, is to find an employer who will hire you and has the immigration attorney. I do not know whether you mean the need of H1B for research or for residency.
If you want to have H1B for your research, it would be kind of difficult to try, because probably you are not US citizen and it will be harder for non-citizens to get H1B for research. I mean, it's not impossible, definitely it is not, but is hard and depends on your qualification and employer's interest in your skills. more easier will be to get J1 research but WITHOUT 2 YEAR HOME RESIDENCE REQUIREMENT. This is most important, because if you have this requirement, the time, provided with this visa, including all vaiwers is something like 6-7 year, which is not enough to complete the full resedency program. You can avoid this requirement in 3 cases: 1) you do not have govenment funding (i.e. have private funding, and not something grants or scholarships) 2) your qualification is not in skills list, that US consulate has and 3) you are not going to apply for graduate medical education for this particular visa (you may apply for that with other or same type of visa whenever you have the possibility). I mean, I do not know how to avoid this requirement if you have this kind of J1 visa, but still think that if you have the possibility to obtain that kind of visa, do not skip it, get that one and you will figure out something when you get here.
If you want to get H1B for your resedency, you have to pass all three steps of USMLE and then find an employer, which is not very difficult to do using ERAS and ECGMF web-site or personally, as you have some clinical and research expereince and have passed all USMLE steps and hold ECGMF certificate.
Hope this helps. Let me know if there is anything more I can help. Good luck
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| neuro312
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Thanks a lot!
You really helped me.
I want to have H1B for research. Probably, I will have some funding from grants of NIH, that's mean funding from government. So, as far as what I understood, I am not eligible for J1 without 2 years home residency, am I?
I have a good visa history, too (I have 2 previous visits to US under B1). Does it make things go easier for H1B?
Thanks very much
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| bacteriophage
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neuro312 wrote:Thanks a lot! You really helped me. I want to have H1B for research. Probably, I will have some funding from grants of NIH, that's mean funding from government. So, as far as what I understood, I am not eligible for J1 without 2 years home residency, am I? I have a good visa history, too (I have 2 previous visits to US under B1). Does it make things go easier for H1B? Thanks very much
Most probably you will have J1 with that requirement if you have the grant from NIH. You should find out those details with the organisation, which is hiring you. If that is your personal research grant, it will be probably J1, but if you will be the part of NIH research grant, and the owner of this grant will be some US institution, you may ask to your employer to have an agreement and issue H1B. I do not know whether it is possible or not, but try all the possibilities to avoid J1, maybe they can issue F1 or H1B. It depends on their offer how they are going to hire you. If you have personal NIH grant you definitely are not eligible for J1 without that requirement. And your good visa history will help you to make things easier during the interview, but not avoid the requirements stated in their rules. go and research all the possibilities on www.travel.state.gov and then ask for particular visa, if that is your decision to get H1B, J1 or F type visa.
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| neuro312
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Thanks a lot.
I really appreciate all those.
Let's try!
Good luck!
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