chemamr
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I've noticed there are several posts on the same topic, asking about the documents we have to send to ERAS, i'm talking about IMGs of course, if they must be original or copies, why don't we try to have a final word on it because the whole thing looks like confusing( At least for me).
1) MSPE?
2) Medical school transcript?
3) LORs? here, does it have to be strictly signed with blue ink?
4) Photo: original.
PLEASE ANSWER, I AND SEVERAL OF US STILL NEED TO CLEAR THIS DOUBT OUT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN. I REALLY NEED TO KNOW THIS...
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| drk1980
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These are the documents ECFMG can and will scan and attach to your file:
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Original color photograph, wallet size or passport type, about 2.5 x 3.5 inches
Copy of your MSPE or an English translation
Copy of your medical school transcript or an English translation (up to 5 pages)
Original Letters of Recommendation signed by the letter writer in "blue ink"
California Application Status Letter or Receipt Notice (if applying to California programs)
Copy of Fifth Pathway Certificate
Copy means Photocopy.
Original means well original.
http://www.aamc.org/students/eras/info_img/start....
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| Cedrick
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Medical school transcripts .Grades "calificaciones"
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| chemamr
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yes cedrick. medical school transcript is the kardex.
drk1980: thanks for the answer. But in the 2006 ERAS applicant's manual in the page 36 they say exactly the same thing except for the LORs when they say they can be originals or copies.
ANY OTHER ANSWER??
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| skdoc
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HI Chemamr,
How r u doing?Seen ur message after a long time.
Luckily I have 2 copies of all the LORS so planning to send the originals.
Good Luck
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| chemamr
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hi skdoc. nice to "see" you  .
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| doc_droc_apurva
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im sendin copies of lors and rest all originals - always the twisted mind
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| chemamr
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Ok, so i guess we can have a consensus, so far (this talking for IMGs only):
Photo: original obviously
MSPE: copy
Med school transcript: copy
LORs: originals or copies
do you agree guys?, bbb?
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| doc_droc_apurva
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| bbb
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This is one that I can't answer - it's that the ERAS web page tells you to do. I only see the end product, so I will differ to the masters.
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| infliximab
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THANKS FOR THE INFO, IT WASNT CLEAR TO ME
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| nisha
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but guys will they still look at copies of LOR's? they clearly state "Original Letters of Recommendation signed by the letter writer in "blue ink"....although this is sort of ridiculous because they're €just gonna scan them...I think we'll have to phone ERAS for this one
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| bbb
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[left]June 2006 ERAS Support Services at ECFMG [/left] [left]Policy on Original Documents for Letters of Recommendation, (LoR) and Medical Student Performance Evaluations, (MSPE) [/left]
In concert with the existing policy established for all U.S. Medical Graduates applying for residency programs and to maintain the integrity of documents reviewed by program directors via ERAS, ERAS Support Services at ECFMG requires that all International Medical Graduates (IMGs) submit "Original" LoRs effective with the 2007 ERAS season. Additionally, all IMGs who submit a Medical Student Performance Evaluation (MSPE) as part of their ERAS application are also required to submit an original MSPE. ERAS Support Services at ECFMG does NOT require original medical school transcripts. IMGs must NOT submit their original medical school transcripts.
ERAS Support Services at ECFMG will not delay the processing of an ERAS application if the IMG cannot supply an "Original" LoR or MSPE. However the document will be annotated as described below.
"Original" Letters of Recommendation (LoRs)
The LoR must be written on official institutional letterhead, manually signed by the letter writer in "blue ink". For enhanced authentication, the IMG should request from his/her letter writer(s) to affix an institutional seal on the LoR.
Original LoRs not written in English must include an official English translation; that is, any document not in English must be accompanied by an English translation, prepared by and certified to be correct by medical school official (for example, a Dean or Registrar), a government official (for example, a Consular Officer), or a professional translation service. The translation must appear on official stationery and must bear the original signature and title of the medical school official, government official or representative of the translation service. If the translation service is a private company, the letterhead stationery must identify the company as a translation service.
The IMG is urged to submit LoRs that are up-to-date and meaningful in content. The letter writer should be a physician who is familiar with the IMG’s clinical abilities and knowledge, as well as his/her interpersonal skills. The IMG who submits LoRs that are substantive in content will ultimately provide the program director with information pertinent to the residency selection process.
MSPE (formerly known as the Dean’s Letter)
The MSPE must be written on medical school letterhead with the medical school seal affixed, and signed by the designated medical school official. If the document is not in English, an official English translation (defined above) must accompany the MSPE. If the IMG cannot obtain an MSPE, he/she can indicate this on the ERAS application at the appropriate place.
The term "Dean’s Letter" is no longer used. The IMG is urged to approach his/her respective Dean’s office to acquire a MSPE. The content of a MSPE should provide an "evaluation" of the IMG’s performance during the course of his/her medical school years relative to his/her peers. The MSPE should not act as "predictor" of an IMG’s future performance but provide information about the IMG’s academic performance.
ECFMG’s Determination of Original Documents ECFMG will make a visual inspection to determine if the document is an original or a copy. ECFMG will not conduct a primary source verification of these document types. If the IMG cannot submit an "Original" document and the submitted document(s) is (are) determined by ECFMG to be a copy, ERAS Support Services at ECFMG will stamp the document(s) to read as follows:
COPY–Originals Required For This Document Type ERAS Support Services
The annotation stamped on the document will be viewable by Program Directors. Certified English translations accompanying submitted documents will be marked as a copy if the underlying document is determined to be a copy.
Note that the implementation of requiring original documents will not cause processing delays nor will documents be rejected if copies are submitted.
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| bbb
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Per the ERAS web site - if you can't submit an original, submit copies and they will be stamped that it's a copy. It's not a big deal
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| gollum05
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i am sending original LORs and copy of MSPE, thats exactly opposite of what apurva is gona do
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| chemamr
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OK. so:
photo: original
MSPE: original
LORs: original
transcript: copy
So, that's the ideal but if we can't, we just submit copies and they samp them like copies but it doesn't cause any problem. It sounds like that. 
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| nisha
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Thanks bbb, at least we know that bottom line: there will be no processing delays and no documents will be rejected...
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| pete31
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copieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
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| srf
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how much time usmle takes to up load our documents if send from within U.S.A.?
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What if I send all the original LORs with my application and unfortunately I dont match. Are they going to send my original LORs back to me. I have an understanding that for every match we have to fill out a new application which means that my original LORs will not be saved. Is it right? And does it mean that I have to have multiple copies of LORs?
Thanks for your reply in advance.
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