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| | 07/05/06 - 04:45 PM  
 
   
 
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A 61 year old woman has a 10 year old history of progressive pain in the hips,knee and hands she has symmetric swelling and formation of nodules in the distal interphalangeal joints of her hands and pain on movement of both knees there is no increased warmth or tenderness the most likely cause of her joint pain is ? a.-gout b.-lyme disease c.-osteoarthritis d.-pseudogout e.-rhuematoid arthritis
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| reet Forum Fanatic

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| | 07/05/06 - 04:48 PM  
 
   
 
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C. osteoarthritis. ( pain on movement)
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| Cedrick Forum Fanatic

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| | 07/05/06 - 05:13 PM  
 
   
 
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yes C.-osteoarthritis
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| sridevibandaru24 Forum Guru
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| | 07/05/06 - 05:18 PM  
 
   
 
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C
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| robin082006 Forum Hero

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| | 07/05/06 - 06:39 PM  
 
   
 
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I go with Rheumatoid arthritis Here why I choose it: -Symmetric - Rheumatoid nodules's signs
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| study_ing Forum Fanatic

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| | 07/05/06 - 07:20 PM  
 
   
 
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distal joint involvement favor OA they rnt rheumaoid nodules, they are Nodes ( can never remember whether u call em bouchard or herbenden in distal) due to osteophyte frmation
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| Diego Casali Forum Elite

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| | 07/06/06 - 12:31 AM  
 
   
 
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C for sure.
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| reet Forum Fanatic

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| | 07/06/06 - 12:24 PM  
 
   
 
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Actually ,, two things are more positive-- LONG PERIOD over months and years. Pain on movement. and also distal nodules are herbeden nodes
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| robin082006 Forum Hero

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| | 07/06/06 - 12:52 PM  
 
   
 
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How about symmetric symptoms?
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| robin082006 Forum Hero

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| | 07/06/06 - 12:57 PM  
 
   
 
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I read Goljan Rapid review pg 302 again and could't distinguish C and E in this question.
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| | 07/08/06 - 11:46 PM  
 
   
 
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more hints at OA A 61 year old woman formation of nodules in the distal interphalangeal joints of her hands and pain on movement of both knees there is no increased warmth or tenderness only thing is symmetric favoring RA. the proximal joint is fa vored more in RA.
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| | 07/08/06 - 11:48 PM  
 
   
 
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rheuamtoid nodules on extensor surfaces not DIP where herbenden's (thanx reet... ) i think
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| mjl1717 Forum Hero

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| | 07/09/06 - 12:36 AM  
 
   
 
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Cedrick wrote: A 61 year old woman has a 10 year old history of progressive pain in the hips,knee and hands she has symmetric swelling and formation of nodules in the distal interphalangeal joints of her hands and pain on movement of both knees there is no increased warmth or tenderness the most likely cause of her joint pain is ? a.-gout b.-lyme disease c.-osteoarthritis d.-pseudogout e.-rhuematoid arthritis
Rheumatioid- I think rheumatoid if its symmetric and affects many joints. Bouchards nodes usually in PIP and MP joints. Pain greatest upon arising in the morniing. This is not a good q because mentioning the Heberdens nodes usually in the DIP in ostearthritis could be in either disease CONTRAIDICTS the essence of this question. To make this a good q suggesting rhematoid arthritis the author should have added words like {IgG affecting IgM} or sed. rate, or pannus formation or even multi systemic disease. Also rheumatoid is more likely about 2:1 in a female. But it makes for decent discussion.
Edited by mjl1717 on 07/09/06 - 12:42 AM
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| | 07/12/06 - 03:42 AM  
 
   
 
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C
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| | 07/12/06 - 01:03 PM  
 
   
 
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its c all the things go in favor of oa
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| tolito Forum Fanatic
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| | 07/16/06 - 01:40 PM  
 
   
 
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C. RA is MCP and PIP Joints while OA is PIP and DIP joints. OA may be symetrical too. problem started at age 51. RA should start earlier ie 35 - 45.
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| twesting2173 Forum Senior

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| | 09/19/06 - 07:09 PM  
 
   
 
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i think its IgM againt IgG in RA, but i may be wrong.
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| ManuNastai
| | 09/20/06 - 02:08 AM  
 
   
 
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the answer is C those are Herberden nodules, carracteristic to OA (distal interphalangeal joints). Bouchard nodules (in the proximal IF joints) are carracteristic for RA also, my friends, there is no inflamated joints! (which appear in RA) a very helpfull hint would be if cedrick would have told us how long does the pain last after moving, in the morning (short in OA and long, over an hour or the whole day w/ RA)
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| | 10/23/06 - 11:08 PM  
 
   
 
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C then
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| ashfaque Forum Newbie
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| | 11/01/06 - 01:00 AM  
 
   
 
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amswer E in rhematoid marked leukocytosis rash joint involvement thrombocytopenia in R.A rash is maulopapular indicating use of steroid ointment
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| vallia Forum Guru
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| | 11/01/06 - 05:00 AM  
 
   
 
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for sure is osteoartritis hints- age, pain, heberden nodes (DIP)
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| hatiifa Forum Newbie
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| | 11/06/06 - 06:49 AM  
 
   
 
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Rh. arthritis would have apparrent redness, hotness and tenderness of joints, also pain would be more on waking up after rest not on motion. these are characteristics of OA. I'd go for C.
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| usmle4me Forum Elite
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| | 11/06/06 - 07:55 AM  
 
   
 
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Shall go with C age ~50yrs Pain on movement No warmth or tenderness Nodules in DIP
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