karusmle Forum Guru
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| | 06/13/06 - 04:18 AM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
what is the first step in the management of thyroid nodule???
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| sachida Forum Guru

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| | 06/13/06 - 07:18 AM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
I would say TSH levels
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| achilles Forum Guru

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| | 06/13/06 - 07:19 AM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
should be measuring the TSH level first and then other tests.
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| sachida Forum Guru

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| | 06/13/06 - 08:00 AM  
 
   
 
|   #4 |
I think so for all thyroid related pathology- expecially nodule. I am still little unsure if it is carcinoma.
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| MAZI Forum Elite
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| | 06/16/06 - 02:00 AM  
 
   
 
|   #5 |
if the person has sign and symptom of hypo or hyperthyroid then TSH if not the first is fine needle aspiration( FNA)
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| zeloc Forum Junior
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| | 08/24/07 - 01:21 PM  
 
   
 
|   #6 |
I am pretty sure that the first step is fine needle aspiration for a thyroid nodule in the asymptomatic patient, but there is a USMLEWORLD question that states the first step is to get a TSH. Any other opinions? I may look for a more definitive source tonight.
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| doyoudig Forum Guru
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| | 08/24/07 - 01:33 PM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
TSH always 1st, u can;t really do much until u know the status of the Nodule can be hot can be cold can be normal.... depending on its results - FNA comes next for cold/normal or RAIU Scan to different btw Hot nodules etiologies
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| doyoudig Forum Guru
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| | 08/24/07 - 01:36 PM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec12/ch152/ch152b.html
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| new_n_lost Forum Hero

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| | 08/24/07 - 01:43 PM  
 
   
 
|   #9 |
Fine-needle aspiration biopsy should be the first test performed in a euthyroid patient with a solitary thyroid nodule; radionuclide scanning should be reserved for patients with indeterminate cytologic findings or thyrotoxicosis. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/328/8/55... This is for Euthyroid Pt Otherwise they have suggested tht :- Because clinical examination is not sensitive for identifying thyroid dysfunction, laboratory evaluation of thyroid function is routinely warranted. The only biochemical test routinely needed is measurement of the serum thyrotropin level. If this level is subnormal, levels of free thyroxine or free triiodothyronine should be measured to document the presence and degree of hyperthyroidism. Approximately 10 percent of patients with a solitary nodule have a suppressed level of serum thyrotropin, which suggests a benign hyperfunctioning nodule. If the serum thyrotropin concentration is elevated, a serum antithyroperoxidase antibody level should be obtained to confirm Hashimoto's thyroiditis. However, the finding of an elevated level does not obviate the need for a fine-needle aspiration biopsy, since the practitioner must rule out a coexisting cancer, including lymphoma, which accounts for only 5 percent of thyroid cancers but is associated with Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Nearly all patients with thyroid cancer are euthyroid,
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| doyoudig Forum Guru
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| | 08/24/07 - 01:55 PM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
I disagree, so also looked this up in Cmdt 2007 ed " Thyroid Nodules are indications for Thyroid Function Test. Serum TSH (very sensitive) and FT4 are preffered." to new n lost: so if u say that the Pt is euthyroid, then u alwready know the TSH levels!!!
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| new_n_lost Forum Hero

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| | 08/24/07 - 02:30 PM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
Dude, I just posted u the Link and their reasoning U can disagree with them but if u see the line right where i have said " FOR EUTHYROID PT OTHERWISE " u will get the point they r trying to make. They have categorically explained wht they do in such cases of thyroid Nodule.
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| doyoudig Forum Guru
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| | 08/24/07 - 02:33 PM  
 
   
 
|   #12 |
new n lost no worries, I was writing response to ur 1st post n once I posted I saw ur sencond post
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| new_n_lost Forum Hero

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| | 08/24/07 - 02:44 PM  
 
   
 
|   #13 |
doyoudig wrote: new n lost no worries, I was writing response to ur 1st post n once I posted I saw ur sencond post
lol that was wht i was thinking
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| liliaeliz Forum Elite

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| | 08/24/07 - 04:10 PM  
 
   
 
|   #14 |
first next step TSH most accc. FNA
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| Justice Forum Fanatic

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| | 08/24/07 - 04:30 PM  
 
   
 
|   #15 |
TSH levels
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| epica
| | 08/24/07 - 11:11 PM  
 
   
 
|   #16 |
I think it's incomplete Q. I would refer to CMDT 2007
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| dr in trouble Forum Guru

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| | 08/28/07 - 11:21 AM  
 
   
 
|   #17 |
First step is always to check TSH first as u can not do FNA for a hyperthyroid pt.,once u r sure that pt is euthyroid then u can go for FNA .
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| Justice Forum Fanatic

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| | 08/28/07 - 11:28 AM  
 
   
 
|   #18 |
Well, I went through this issue yesterday, and it seems like FNA is the best step to study thyroid node... All other steps depend upon findings on FNA... Both StepUp and FA agree on this... If the node is hyperfunctional, the TSH will be low... I don't think it'll say anything specific about diagnosis... You rather do a radio-I scan...
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| lakshya_0_7 Forum Elite
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| | 08/28/07 - 02:23 PM  
 
   
 
|   #19 |
u know what guys....pretest surgery says USG of neck is first....more confusion
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