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Hi ,
I am taking my step 1 within 20 days. Now I have two plan to think about it. one is to take step 2 in end of oct and then CS in dec and apply for 2007 but because I have no clinical experience so I am not sure whether I will be able to get consider for match.........
should I go for 2007 match or should delay will 2008 and during that period I should take step3 and some US clinical experience?
Please guide me. I shall be very thankful to you all .
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| doc179
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I am in the same situation as star1 ..pls someone advise
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| ndspider
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I can tell you this, I am a US medical student.
Other than the step 1 score your clinical experience is very important. So get that, and get good letters of rec and you wil be fine.
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| star1
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Thanks ndspider, Its mean that we should drop one year and should apply for 2008 match. and what possible ways are for us to get US clinical experience....? what about observership and research?
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| doc_droc_apurva
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i was in the exact same situ givin my s1 on june 20, 2005. i didnt match.. suggest u focus on completing a complete package for 2008. try for 2007 if u have the cash and want to get the feel of things.. if u need j1/gc then u might make it into a good program. otherwise aim for an h1 in small comm even if u have a 99..
dont mind. my experience..
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| ndspider
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Mary an american woman. They are looking for husbands.....
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| adeelmd
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What specialty do you want? do you have a visa? (step 3 is only important if you need a visa)... What are your current nbme/kaplan scores (I mean are you going to get in the nineties, or are you planning on taking step 1 with a 500 nbme and 60% qbank score (I hope not)) ....
score, score, score, are the most important things. Then worry about USCE, 2007, 2008, or the 2009 match. 10 years of clinical experience wont help you if you get a 76.
Study every day, when you are confident you can get above a 90 take step 1. Repeat for step 2. Take 2 weeks for step cs. Then look for USCE and worry about what year to match in.
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| doc_droc_apurva
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qoute everythin in this post what was said above by adeel
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| doc179
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Thanx Apurva and Adeel.. I want to get into internal medicine and I do need a visa. I dont have the NBME score yet. Will take the NBME in a few days. So as adeel said will have to get more than 500 in the NBME. hmm
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| doc_droc_apurva
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in usa, god is not spelled as "g. o. d."
its "s. c. o. r. e."
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| adeelmd
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more than 550 on nbme. I said 500 because that is the level where you can easily pass, but you have a chance of getting in the mid-to high 80's. This is where many people are tired of studying for so long, have other things to do, and end up giving the test. The 95 is only a few months away, and I've seen people throw it all away because they had to get married next month, or go on a cruise... etc...all because they couldn't study for a few more months. Unlike American grads, we can and should take these tests when we want to, and when we are ready. It's the only advantage we really have. above 550 (on both of them not averaged out) means that you should score in the nineties.
Edited by adeelmd on 06/02/06 - 12:19 PM
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| katzung
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Hi star1 is that really your pic!! if so then hats off for your perseverance
good luck.
god bless you.
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| star1
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lol...... hahahahah
its not my picture . This is the picture of our GREAT TEACHER DR. GULJAN ........
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| doc179
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phew...above 550!!! I will definitely try to do that ( will try to postpone the exam if I dont get a high score on the NBME ). I was just worried abt wasting a year...hmm.One more Qn if I dont get an observership , I can definitely volunteer in some research laboratory.. I know that observership is far better than a research experience , what I want to know is LOR from a researcher helps or not ? also how much do we have to score in the Q bank ( timed vs untimed ) to get in the 90s in the real exam? Thank you very much.
to Katzung : The person in that pic is Dr.Goljan.
Edited by doc179 on 06/02/06 - 04:35 PM
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| LifeInTheFastLane
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If you have the time...aim for nothing short of 99.
If you have everything but money and time, you're a friend of mine!
Goodluck guys...dont let the passion in your hearts sizzle out!!
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| doc179
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Hello friend..good luck to you too.
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| adeelmd
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you need at least a 68% on qbank timed random questions to get in the nineties. getting above 70% would be best. There is no way to correlate untimed tests or doing questions subjectwise. This is because part of the difficulty of these tests is that you have to keep on jumping from subject to subject, and different people will have different performance when faced with mixed questions. When it comes to time vs untimed, one study showed as much as a 20% improvement in score when questions are done untimed vs timed; so you wont really know how you will perform under pressure.
Any LOR is better than no letter. Try for the observership, if you can't get it, go for the research... but I think you already know that.
If you have the time... aim for a 99
if you don't have the money or the time
then live on a dime
but don't take the test until your qbank is at least 69
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| doc179
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Thank you very much adeelmd, will surely consider everythying you said. you are also right abt the Qbank Qns doing timed vs untimed. I have also noticed the difference. will definitely let you know abt my step 1. Thanx for all the help.
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| LifeInTheFastLane
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If you have the time... aim for a 99
if you don't have the money or the time
then live on a dime
but don't take the test until your qbank is at least 69
Thanks for rhyming it out the right way Adeel...lemme now hold on to my last dime...have invested in my future (which right now seems more risky than any of those "blitxkreig" bonds outta there)
Goodluck guys...we r gonna need it!
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so what is better? externship or research?
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