rashmi_k3
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The programme U will never want to join unless u remain unmatched.
No offence to any programme or PD personally.
But lets see what ours folk have to say.
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| Veer-Zaara
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1.Sisters of Charity, Buffalo
2.JHU/Sinai
3.Interfaith
4.Harlem Medical Center
5.St. Vincent WQorcester
6.St. Barnabas, Bronx
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| drkill
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are these based on personal interview experience veer zaara? i did not interview at any of those places but cancelled my iv at jhu sinai...ure post makes me feel glad abt it.
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| rashmi_k3
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Thanks veer-jaara,
Hope you are guiding us towards the right path.
GL to U.
Anymore names? common guyz.
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| DiaHuq
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the one place that I had decided to not rank if I had gone through with the match was Nassau univ med center. I think you would learn a lot there, but the residents looked so tired and exhausted even the ones giving us the tour, they were impatient and when asked if they got to study or give time to research, they skirted the issue until one resident finally admitted to me that they don't get any time to study at all. I felt like one cow in a whole herd throughout the interview, it was just a different experience then all the other places I interviewed.
also JHU/sinai program, heard from close sources bad things.
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| mash
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brookdale university hospital -- peds
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| drkill
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diahuq u r rt...i did feel the residents at numc were verrry tired!! its a relief to hear i wasnt the only one who thought so....even though i mite rank the program even if not at top....depends on what all choices one has....
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| coolbabe76
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while this is an interesting thread....i am not sure if anything can be SO bad that u wud rather not go there....
i know the subject of the thread does say that you wud go there as last proiority.....
anyway the point is that i was talking to a freind of mine,,,and she was saying that its importatnt to get into this system,.,,be a part of it and then u will realise that its not so difficult to change hospitals (of course with a valid reason like some family reason or something like that)
and for people who have done residency in their home countries and are here only to get board certified( and not SO enthu about f ship though that too can happen if you have the right attitude and contatcts)....it does not matter where you did your graduation from.
I have another friend who is a faculty in a hospital affiliated to brown univ, RI and she too confirmed that in the job market it does not matter much as long as you are board certified....
so guys , in this difficult time of getting a spot, dont leave out any program where u interviewed from you ROL.
sure put it in the last spot....very likely you will get matched somewhere above that 
good luck everyone
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| aimudia
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Well said coolbabe, we have to maximize our chances, we have spent alot of money in this process that we need to get something back even if it's from St Barnabas. I wish you all the best in the match.
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| katzung
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i think what coolbabe76 said was very sensible,
Because when i went to univ of missouri columbia i met a guy in cardiology who did his residency in newyork in an ordinary programme and then did fellowship in univ.
So the way u build up contacts and ur work during residency has got much to do with ur future prospects.
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| rashmi_k3
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Thanks coolbabe N catzung.
U guyz are real genuis. good luck for your residency.
I didnt mean to impose anything to hurt the moral of anyone here whoa re desperate to get a residency spot. I understand the value of time, money and struggle. Its realy hard for IMGs to find a spot at any ordinary place.
Good luck everyone. keep trying, there is always a better place ahead for you.
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| smak
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i agree with what coolbabe and katzung said...but one also has to remember that u don't want to be miserable for the next 3 years of ur life.in the desperation to get a residency sometimes one tends to overlook the importance of a good working environment....we all deserve to be in a program where we will be happy....after all we have worked hard...why sell oursleves cheap.
on the otherhand i also understand that some of us have spent insane amounts of money on the application and interviewing process and at the end of the matching season...we want a job.....period.
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| DiaHuq
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i did think that naussau univ. mc had a good program and I would learn alot, but being one part of a family and maybe thinking of having a child in pgy3, i just thought NUMC is good if you are willing to dedicate ALL your time. And trust me, I have had friends who have had personal experiences with programs that they regretted ranking the program and not waiting until the next year. There exists some programs that want to prey on fmgs and use them for scut and slave labour. I think where you fit is an individual thing, what is good for one might not be for another.
It's not that smaller programs are bad and bigger programs are good, and university prog. are the only ones that count. I sincerely don't believe that, I myself chose to go to a small, community hospital because it fit my circumstances better. but I do believe there exist some things worse then not matching.
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| Ryan233
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St. Barnabas definately. Am not even planning on ranking it. Dont even know why i went there.
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| Veer-Zaara
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I think all of us would be happy if we match (even if it turns out to be a night mare program!).The question was which program would you avoid as much as you can so that you do not match or in other words which are programs you have no interest in or less priority to. Different people, different strokes. It needs to be mentioned that by listing the name of the program, it doesn't means those programs are bad or useless.There beauty to be found in the thorns of a rose bush as a rose and the mud from where lotus grow from so everything has some goodness in them! These hospital provide education, and to me any insitute which imparts knowledge and education should be respected like a temple(as so my Indian roots teach me).And the imparter of knowledge, the 'guru' should be given equal respect as your parents.
But it can't be denied that sometimes, there are certain programs which do not 'click' with you or forget their duties to teach. And becoz of that start becoming unpopular.I will gladly accept whichever program I ended up being at becoz it is that program which placed trust in my application, qualities,qualifications and if they have this amount of regard for me so its only fair that I have equally faith and trust in them even if its the unpopulat St Barnabas(and other in my list above). It calls onto my duty to perform my level the best in the program, hospital and my patients and community even if its St. Barnabas and all those other programs I listed above. So I have nothing against those programs, its just that at this point of time they are not my priority.
I had personal expereince with sisters Buffalo and St Vincent, not the others. I think the thread was started to share notes and observations just to see what the general concesus is like, not to make fun of the program.After all a selection committeee goes through our strong and weak points and flaws how we interviewed, our qualifications,personalities etc, so why can't us applicant have a 'forum' which serves the same purpose for us?
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| obgyntobe
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worst place i did my rotation there. i still had interview to see any improvement the residents are worked as slaves has to do everthing. but during the interview all the good things are told and people seem to be impressed.
just my opinion.
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| rashmi_k3
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which place obgyntobe?
Well said veer-zaara....
It looks like only U could understood my intention of starting this thread.
I am waiting for more names and comments, Plz Plz dont use inappropriate terms to describe any peogramme.
thank.
good luck to you all.
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| drkill
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hey nobody is running down a program or any person here...its just a discussion abt what each of us felt according to personal experience....im sure we r all grown up enuff not to base whats important to us or what program shd b ranked or not based on what everyone says....everyone needs to b realistic n rank according their own chances n priorities.i personally think its 3 yrs n a long time....so dont want to b miserable even if the program is of great name etc.so work environment is very imp.but one also has to weigh what happens if u dont match...if u can handle the stress/expenses etc take the chance...or else u know better....
that again is my personal opinion.....not trying to influence
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| rashmi_k3
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well, well... Everybody has their own way of justifying things.
Drkill U r a killer..Just kidding.
GL for the match
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| ari
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UCSF Fresno. It's a good program, but they kicked ot 3 PGY1 IMGs last year and put 1 on probation. I would not be happy in such program.
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| Veer-Zaara
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Kingsbrook Jewish Hospital.
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| bbb
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 Interesting that most of the hospitals listed are in the NY area.
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| rashmi_k3
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Has it anything to do with the place? or why is it so?
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| drkill
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i hope thats a compliment dr rashmi! i ugess its tuff time making the rol n its just feels good to discuss stuff....no bad intentions i promise!
interesting question though abt NY....i'd like to know too
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| Veer-Zaara
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I suppose its becoz New York has the most residency programs as compared to other states plus a majority are IMG friendly.
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