DrVirgo Forum Hero

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| | 01/17/06 - 08:24 AM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
What is the probability of making a type I error? what is the prob. of making a type II error?
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| DrVirgo Forum Hero

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| | 01/17/06 - 08:25 AM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
Which is worse?
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| satyaking Forum Junior
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| | 01/17/06 - 10:39 AM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
The probability of making type I erroris alpha,P<0.05. The probability of making type II error is beta.
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| satyaking Forum Junior
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| | 01/17/06 - 10:39 AM  
 
   
 
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The probability of making type I erroris alpha,P<0.05. The probability of making type II error is beta.
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| satyaking Forum Junior
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| | 01/17/06 - 10:49 AM  
 
   
 
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Type I error generally represents False negative,that is as P becomes less than 0.05 the false negative are going to be decreased.In the same way in Type II error the power of the test is denoted by 1- Beta.the power represents the true negatives where as beta represents the false positives.hence a balance should be struck so that there is a balance between them.but most clinical research studies P less than 0.01.hence as cut off point is very low the alpha error is decreased but there is a chance of increased beta error,that is false pos.. are increased.and vice versa occurs.hence balace should be struck between the two. hope Iam clear about it
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| jonathon Forum Senior
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| | 01/17/06 - 07:26 PM  
 
   
 
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I think alpha error is worse. It's like saying a drug does produce a clinically significant when in fact it does not..(Like a Lie). A type 2 error is like saying a drug does not work when it fact it does have therapeutic significance. ??? I think this is it..correct me if i'm wrong.
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| DrVirgo Forum Hero

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| | 01/18/06 - 08:18 AM  
 
   
 
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You all are right. The probability of making a type I Error is alpha or =0.05. The probability of making a type II Error is Beta. Beta=1-Power. Now whats the answer to this Q? and WHY??? 8. A group of researchers mistakenly conclude from a poorly designed experiment that acetaminophen cures the common cold. They have committed which of the following?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> A. 1-β error B. Alpha error C. Beta error D. Type I error E. Type II error
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| satyaking Forum Junior
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| | 01/18/06 - 11:27 AM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
Type II error,because they have would taken alpha very less hence more chance of type II error
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| sturge_weber Forum Guru
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| | 01/25/06 - 12:20 PM  
 
   
 
|   #9 |
i think alpha error
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/25/06 - 12:26 PM  
 
   
 
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isn't typteI error= alpha error?or they are different?
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| sarika Forum Guru

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| | 01/25/06 - 05:36 PM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
ans:type 1 error alpha is the probability of making type one error .
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| DrVirgo Forum Hero

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| | 01/25/06 - 05:50 PM  
 
   
 
|   #12 |
The correct answer is D. Type I errors occur when researchers reject the null hypothesis when they should not have. In other words, they conclude a significant result when in actuality it does not exist. This is a particularly dangerous error to make, as it could lead to the administration of an ineffective drug to patients in need of life-preserving treatment. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Thanks everyone. To conclude: Type I error is worse alpha is the probability of making a type I Error. Type II error = 1-Power (Type II error (beta error) does NOT equal alpha!)
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| mjl1717 Forum Hero

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| | 06/09/06 - 12:30 PM  
 
   
 
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Very good Dr. Virgo, because the definitions of both may appear as "double talk" to many". But in inactuality this is a significant part of biostat and epidemiolgy.
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| leen Forum Guru
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| | 06/09/06 - 04:04 PM  
 
   
 
|   #14 |
thanks
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| zubr Forum Junior
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| | 06/21/06 - 12:03 PM  
 
   
 
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Is Type I error the same as alpha error? Where is this question coming from? I assume that is not from actual USMLE exam, or from NBME. Alpha = I = False Positive (in reality it is false, but was mistakebly accepted by study as truth, a bad drug but shown as a good one = LIE) ONLY if we reject H(0) but must not - alpha(I) error ONLY Rejecting H(0) we could make alpha(I) error with chance 5% (5 from 100, 1 from 20) if p=0.05 Beta= II = False Negative (in reality it is truth, but was rejected, a good drug but shown as a bad one = MISTAKE) ONLY if we accept H(0) but must not - beta(II) error ONLY Accepting H(0) we could make beta(II) error with chance 1-Power (p=0.05 does not matter) LIE(I) is worst then MISTAKE(II) ----------------------------------------------REALITY ----------------------------------TRUTH(+)------------FALSE(-) STUDY SHOW TRUTH (+)---------TP-------------------FP(I)alpha STUDY SHOW FALSE (-)-------FN(II)beta---------------TN TP=POWER= 1 - beta
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