anjushree Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 10:12 AM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
a women with cystic fibrosis married her first cousin ,what is the risk of their children to have cystic fibrosis
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 01:53 PM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
1/16?
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| msyamp Forum Fanatic
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| | 01/11/06 - 02:21 PM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
i go with geroo
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| sturge_weber Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 02:35 PM  
 
   
 
|   #4 |
well is 1/16 not the genes that they share dont we then do the 2/2 table
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| anjushree Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 06:54 PM  
 
   
 
|   #5 |
please explain
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| msyamp Forum Fanatic
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| | 01/11/06 - 07:25 PM  
 
   
 
|   #6 |
let us say the childer are generation 1. thier motherX is affected homologous diseased.ok let us say that MOTHER X'S motherP and FATHER Y'S fatherQ are son and daughter of sisterQ and brothterP respectivly BORN TO Mr.ansestor AND MS.ANCECTOR NOW FATHER y RISK TO BE KNOWN. MOTHER X TO GET DISEASE hey this is gettng complicatd. now i did it in a diagram see that. http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=presentat...
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| msyamp Forum Fanatic
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| | 01/11/06 - 07:32 PM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
see carefully and you will understand. its a mind teaser the percentages showthat chances of having that alleles
Edited by msyamp on 01/11/06 - 07:41 PM
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| anjushree Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 08:04 PM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
THANKS UR FIG IS GREAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS - AA Aa Aa AA =1/4 = 1/2 aa Aa aa 1/2 1/4*1/2*1/2=1/16
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| anjushree Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 08:06 PM  
 
   
 
|   #9 |
it is just come close,making everything puzzled
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| msyamp Forum Fanatic
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| | 01/11/06 - 08:09 PM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
if you understand it thats ok. you got it?
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 08:28 PM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
this is how i think about it,1st cousin shares 1/8 of the genes.so there is 1/8 possibility the the cousin is a carrier.so when they mates there is 1/2 possiblity that the child is affected.so the total risk is 1/2 X 1/8 = 1/16.is that logic??
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 08:29 PM  
 
   
 
|   #12 |
anjushree is 1/16 the right answer??
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| anjushree Forum Guru
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| | 01/11/06 - 08:32 PM  
 
   
 
|   #13 |
yes,1/16 is right answer
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| linaorvos Forum Elite
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| | 01/12/06 - 03:17 PM  
 
   
 
|   #14 |
Wow, good Q, I got the concept from Geroo, thank you!
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| bluntknife Forum Senior
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| | 01/15/06 - 09:00 PM  
 
   
 
|   #15 |
cystic fibrosis is autosomal recessive...so the women will have genotype say aa....if the guy is a carrier(A,a) there will be 1/2 chance of the child havin cystic fibrosis and if hes homozygous normal(A,A)...then none of the childen will have cystic fibrosis...i cant get it how the answer cud be 1/16th...am i dumb or wat
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| bluntknife Forum Senior
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| | 01/15/06 - 09:34 PM  
 
   
 
|   #16 |
ok i got the concept from geroo's explanation...but now im confused wat would be the probability if it werent a autosomal recessive disease...wat if we had a autosomal dominant condition and the mother had it and she married her first cousin...if she was heterozygous then going by geroo's explanation the chance would be 1/12 right????
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:08 PM  
 
   
 
|   #17 |
1/12? how ?
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| bluntknife Forum Senior
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:20 PM  
 
   
 
|   #18 |
heteozygous female for autosomal dominant condition A,a first chance of being heterozygous 1/8....if both are heterozygous then 2/3rd of children will be affected from the condition...one homozygous and other two heterozygous...multiply 2/3 by 1/8 and u get 1/12....right???
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| bluntknife Forum Senior
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:23 PM  
 
   
 
|   #19 |
ooopsssss sprry not 2/3, multiply by 3/4.........so that makes 3/32....
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:24 PM  
 
   
 
|   #20 |
if they are both heterozygous then the chance of the child being affected is 3/4.(do the 2/2 table).
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:25 PM  
 
   
 
|   #21 |
yes 
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| bluntknife Forum Senior
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:27 PM  
 
   
 
|   #22 |
yeah i made the table.....but do u think that will be the probability...ie 3/32...or does this 1/8 chance of sharing her genes with cousin doesnt work for autosomal dominant???
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:33 PM  
 
   
 
|   #23 |
u know I think the 1/8 doesn't work because she might have inherited the gen from the other parent(i.e it's not garanteed that the grandfather has the gen).right?
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| bluntknife Forum Senior
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:36 PM  
 
   
 
|   #24 |
does that mean we cant calculate the probabilt for an autosomal dominant condition...unless specific genotype is given?
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| Geroo Forum Guru
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| | 01/15/06 - 10:41 PM  
 
   
 
|   #25 |
i think so
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