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| | 12/29/05 - 12:24 PM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
What diseases are in the differential of a slightly elevated total bilirubin but normal alk phos, normal ALT and normal AST.
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| Doc2378 Forum Guru

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| | 12/29/05 - 12:31 PM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
All right...lemme take a shot at it (please correct me if I am wrong! )...if only 'slightly' elevated I'd suspect Gilbert's $ but other causes that can cause an increase as well are... 1. All causes of unconjugated hyperbilirubinemias secondary to increased RBC hemolysis 2. In the liver: Crigglar Najjar, Gilbert's $ (mainly unconjugated) Dubin Johnson, Rotor $ (mainly conjugated) Basically we can rule out Hepatitis (ALT, AST elevated with ALT > AST); Alcoholic Hepatitis (ALT, AST elevated with AST > ALT); and Obstruction (elevated GGT and Alk Phos) Well???
Edited by Doc2378 on 12/29/05 - 12:36 PM
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| mjl1717 Forum Hero

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| | 12/29/05 - 01:58 PM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
This an associate of mine: 40 year old female who complains of an abnormal odor emanating from her pores not her vagina.(seriously)
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| sturge_weber Forum Guru
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| | 12/29/05 - 03:13 PM  
 
   
 
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well why dubin johnson, doc2378 rest all i agree withu, basically i think any cause of hemolysis that occurs outside the liver, would be a choice here
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| msyamp Forum Fanatic
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| | 12/29/05 - 05:41 PM  
 
   
 
|   #5 |
why not dubin johnson. it doesnt have high liver enzymes. it only has high biliruin conjugated
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| Doc2378 Forum Guru

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| | 12/29/05 - 05:47 PM  
 
   
 
|   #6 |
Hmm...good point guys... ...I wonder if the transaminases get elevated with all that black pigment in there in Dubin Johnson?? Not sure...
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| skyhigh Forum Guru
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| | 12/29/05 - 06:15 PM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
liver enzymes are not elevated in dubin johnson, only bilirubin is. agree with msyamp
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| msyamp Forum Fanatic
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| | 12/29/05 - 06:24 PM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
yes. the liver enzymes do not raise . i dont know about rare possibilities
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| sturge_weber Forum Guru
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| | 12/29/05 - 07:51 PM  
 
   
 
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then can we add rotor to the list too. its conjugated without the pigment?????
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| | 12/29/05 - 08:21 PM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
Tht's the way I remember it...anybody else?
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| msyamp Forum Fanatic
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| | 12/29/05 - 09:19 PM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
yes even that.
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