dariush
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i was reading them from BRS and Kaplan LN, i got really confused over a couple of them:
1- a father who lost his drunk daughter in an accident sets up an anti-liquor compaign not wanting this to happen to anyone else`s daughter
Altruitism or Sublimation ?
2- a married man gets aroused by a woman at work and makes love to his wife that night.
Displacement or Sublimation ?
please explain!
Edited by dariush on 12/29/05 - 12:06 AM
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| drk1980
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i noticed Kaplan does not refer to altruism alone, instead has merged it into Sublimation. In BRS, they took altruism to be a separate entity wherein the personal negative feelings are converted into an activity that is 'of benefit to the society'. Where as sublimation is, personal negative feelings projected outwardly into a 'socially acceptable' situation.
Based on that i suppose ans to Q1 cud be altruism.
Q2- i think its neither. it might be 'undoing'. He had bad feelings about himself for getting aroused by a stranger, to undo this he appeases his wife instead.
For displacement think of teh game 'passing the parcel'. You get an emotion (mostly negative)and the very next instant you pass the same on to the next person. It all usually happens within a short span of time. And rmber Sublimation is one of teh mature defenses. what the person does in using this defense will be a very mature action. Love-making is very primitive infact!! 
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| sturge_weber
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if these re the choices only then
1. altruism
2. sublimation
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| dariush
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you see folks, this is exactely my problem.
these are literally 2 examples given in kaplan LN.
first one under Sublimation.
second one under displacement. !!!
to make things worse, there is this "FIXATION" in the first aid (sports fan) , that from Kaplan`s point of view is just "Identification" !!
and BRS dosent recognize "Repression" as a mechanism and simply states that REPRESSION is the base on which ALL mechanisms are based !
guys can you tell me which one is more STANDARD and USMLE-ish ??
thanks alot.
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| Doc2378
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I had the same problem but I decided to finally stick with Kaplan on this....
So, according to Kaplan
For the first question : Sublimation
Second one would be: Undoing
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| Geroo
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1)sublimation
2)displacement.
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| sturge_weber
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if i were to go with kaplan then reaction formation for the first one, and undoing for the second one
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| Doc2378
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Yup, you are right Sturge...first one shud be Reaction formation and not Sublimation...my mistake!
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| sturge_weber
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yeah just to add more, sublimation is when u do something not acceptable in a socially acceptable way
eg, a child who gets into fights in school very often , becomes a wrestler by profession later in life
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| Geroo
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Guys number 2 is DISPLACEMENT.the same example is in kaplan book!!!
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| sturge_weber
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well geroo u re right, second is displacement in kaplan , i just checked it now, earlier was saying from understanding...
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| drk1980
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oh thts right, kaplan has the same eg as in Q2, under displacement and not undoing. Undoing wud be when the man decides to undo his bad thots and make up to his wife by buying her flowers. i guess i read the wife wrong. she prefers flowers over a colorful night, ahem!
sturge and doc2378 why do u say reaction formation for the Q1? tht defense is used when a personal feeling or thot is replaced by an emphasis on the exact opposite action. If the man were to be a recovering drunk or had tendencies of it, and started the anti-liquor campaign tht wud hv been reaction formation for sure. But in this case its his drunk daughter who died. He has guilty feelings abt not being able to save his daughter and thts why he starts this campaign. IF iam not wrong then tht defines altruism, but kaplan does not even hint anythgn abt tht. so the next one is sublimation. correct me.
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| sturge_weber
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no i dont think it cant be sublimation also...i dont think it fits drk1980... well someone must guide... who knows
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| shaurna
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I would go for ...
q1 sublimation and
q2 displacement
acc to kaplan, Sublimation is impulse gratification achieved by a socially accptable way. So when the person lost his drunk daughter he started the anti liquor campaign to releive his grief. this can't be reaction formation coz there is no opposite emotion expressed.
Displacement is changing the target of emotion or dirve. in this case this man is not chaning his emotion or love , just he is changing his target...from women at work to his wife.
this can not be undoing in which we do something for our unacceptable emotion or think. if the man would give any gift or if they were going out for dinner or anything like this then it would be undoing.
this is what i think......I have no idea about altruism
sorry guys if i make any mistake...
Edited by shaurna on 12/28/05 - 06:13 PM
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| Geroo
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agree with shaurna.
I have not idea about altruism too.it's not in kaplan.
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| drk1980
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shaurna, thanks!
On altruism, this is from BRS(even if kaplan doesnt mention it, it doesn't guarantee USMLE wont bring it up in the exam. It is wise to atleast have an idea about it)---
Altruism - Assisting others to avoid negative personal feelings(a relatively mature defense mechanism) Example - A man with a poor self-image, who is a social worker during the week, donates every other weekend to charity.
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| shaurna
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Thanks drk1980!
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