nashua
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the forum is great and what im saying i can assure u is not abt any one of u guys /gals ..its just an encounter ive had and my bloods just boiling since
after all the hardwork put into the usmle and the after shocks with regards to the score (i am a pretty decent student)which the scores just dont reflect , 13 interviews out of which ive attended 4 thus far ,one pre match which im not gonna take, 1 program sucks big time so i wont even rank it and 2 progs which im in love with and im praying and hoping atlleast one of them offers a premtach is my status thus far
coming back to the interview i really felt bad for myself the past 2 days, i felt if only i had a good score to GET BACK at people, i mean i met this person who got a better score than me but his attitude sucked big time and he was critical of me not taking the pre match cause i had a poor score and he says u dont have the right to choose cause u r in no position to!!!!
i just cant expalin it to u ..."oh ur fresh grad no wonder ur getting so many calls" well i dint prohibit anyone from taking their steps soon.."oh u have a green card no wonder u have so many interviews" ..well please ask ur families here to sponsor like i did ...but please dont mock low scores cause its JUST A SCORE no big deal and im thankful to all the programs which took me cause they really did look beyond my scores
i dont mock people its never been in my nature so its just coming as such a rude shock to me ...anyways now that ive made my point and hopefully if anyone who did say such things are silent readers of the forum well hopefully they wont repeat it cause trust me god doesnt give u everything ..and it applies to everyone
good luck to all and please pray for my prematch 
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| njccmd2002
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What are your credentials. I am also a firm believer of the scores dilemma. the fact that one does not get 99 on both does not make any of us worst or better. Yes its true, i aint no genius, but one thing i can tell you i did not study hard for the tests. Passed in first time. It is just a requirement, silly i would think. Anybody can grab the First aid and memorize it and pass. I do beleive it is not the better way to evaluate a doctor. I do like the pass fail system of the CS. I think all should be like this. Its the interview that sets doctors apart. but well, once we reach the top, we can change the system.
I do envy you the fact that you got 13 interviews. I have only gotten 4. but hey, dont listen to anybody. No program makes a doctor. the doctors make the program. GL. be happy. and if you can choose, go ahead its your right but do it wisely
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| njccmd2002
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i hate myself for not taking my steps during med school. I was foolish...
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| DiaHuq
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nashua i agree, no one should penalize you for your scores. Some people do genuinely do well on the exams, some people study for a long long time and do well, some people would do well normally but have a bad day, or do not take the exams well, i think that if we didn't have the knowledge we wouldn't haven't gotten through med school, I'm a firm believer that our usmle scores do not reflect our knowledge in entirety. and even though it is used as an objective measure of our knowledge I don't believe it represents a person. Don't ever let someone tell you that you don't have a choice because you are not in a positon to choose, do not go where you won't be happy. I'm also a firm believer of "what goes around comes around" and if that person is trying to judge you then I feel he/she will be judged as harshly at a crucial point.
Don't let people who assume to much of themselves get to you. YOU are aware of your self worth and that is enough, forget about the scores, I'm sure our patients aren't going to ask us if we got double 99s in the steps and if we answer no, refuse to be treated by us.
I pray you get a good prematch offer in a place you will be happy at.
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| katzung
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tell that fool that once u get invited scores doesnot matter,if he/she shows same attitude durin the interview he/she will not be selected /ranked for sure.
scores doesnot reflect what ur!!!
its just another number.
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| dharjma
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no offence to anyone but nashua the guy who mocked you didnt mock you because of your scores, he did because of his own personality flaw. with such flaws they'd pick on anything they can, whether its scores, race, height, green card, graduation year, graduation school, research experience, parents upbringing, parents job, socio economic status etc etc. its true that scores arent everything, but it also must be reminded getting 99 never worked against anyone while say gettin 76 does work against you.. so really its the guy's bloody attitude thats annoying, not whether you got a great score or not. you'll meet plenty of in your time. 
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| nashua
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njccmd2002 my creds are 2004 grad/78/83/certified/greencard /us experience 3 months
diahuq thanks a lot and going thru thr forum i know ur in a lot of pre match dilemma good luck to u too
dharjma yup im aware i came home to an empty house and i was so frustarted that i let it out in the forum
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| njccmd2002
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that is what the forum is, to support one another. and thats where i have failed, the clinical experience part. well lets hope for the best...
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| bbb
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I'll be the first one to agree that the scores aren't a true reflection of a persons ability to practice medicine, but from a program's point of view (which is who you need to impress) - how else can we sift through the thousands of applications that come in every year - there needs to a starting place. And scores is a ture judgement of a persons ability to pass their certifying boards - which is why residency programs exist.
I've known persons with 257's and 240's that I wouldn't let them near a family (well, except for that one sister ).
The scores are just that step into the door, because there is no other true starting place. Now, has my program not given interviews to recent grads, with USCE and no visa problems? Yup, we have jumped over people like that - because we want people who like people.
Mom always said "Book smart doesn't mean that you are people smart"
Good luck all!
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| CSobsessed
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I think it all comes to whether they like you and think you will fit into the program. I attended only 2 interviews so far. 12 people showed up for the first one. All had very high scores and ALL were very nice and pleasant to each other. The major question asked during inteview was: " What do you do for fun?" Now, unless my biggest hobby is to poison people in my spare time, why one would care and based his/her decision on my answer? It would be really sad do not be chosen only because I like soccer and do not care for american football at all. I think, that once you already have been invited, did not screw big time on one hand and did not become "love from the first sight" so they offer you prematch on the other hand-- it is pure luck how they will rank you... People say that scores really do not reflect how good they are. I agree. But on the other hand that particular interview day could be somebody's simply bad day and did not reflect the true personality either...My experience with second interview was as following. PD was nice and promising. But during interview he said that he would offer me prematch but it is not him who make decisions I found it very interesting. The resident who gave us tour was in nearly psychotic state of being full of himself, and during the round there was that strange nervous atmosphere. So my first thought was NOT what I am doing here with my high scores, but that I definitely would NOT FIT into this program and would be very unhappy there. My point is, to forget scores once you've been invited. Be yourself and hope that your personality fits other residents in the program. But watch out so that the atmosphere of the program also fits you. Three years is too long period of time to be unhappy.
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| ssandhu112
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ya i also agree with u all.scores doesnt mean one person is better than other.u cant tell if a person with great scores will make in to a good doctor.even gettin interviews depends on other things,most of it luck,sometimes scores dont matter at all.
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| drmamu
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Ok guys, I already have the reputation of the anti score guy. Dear nashua, the fact that you have got so many interviews and prematch offer proves that you are smarter than most people who sit on their 99 score in the hope that it will hatch and a prestigeous residency program will come out of it. I have lost my faith on high scores, though I also have them, due to many reasons- a very large proportion of applicants have it. Second because it is not enough to get you anything. All program look for things more than your high score. There is nothing much in high score that you can not gain with low scores and such stuff like USCE, US LOR, publication, gold medal, fluency in english, and so on.
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