tocket
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Sure!
You will never ever pass cs if you have hijab on you!!!!!!!
I failed 2x
now; No hijab anymore.
I passed
May be some of you will ask; Whats the heck is hijab?
Please find it out in Oxford Lexicon!
hope this will help.
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| smak
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i don't agree...two of my friends take the hijaab and passed cs on first attempt.how u perform on the test day matters...not your attire...go ahead and take ur hijaab.just go well prepared for the test so that u don't blame it on the hijaab.
u r marked on each specific question u ask the patient and every manouver u perform.they can't fail u if u've done everything right.
Edited by smak on 11/23/05 - 02:21 PM
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| afds
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thanks to both of u now what?
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| Googly
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yes, i wear hijab and i passed cs in first attempt
there was another gal with hijab who took cs with me,dont know abt her result but im sure its not affected by hijab atall.
dont worry about it ,it will help u ,not hurt u.
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| usmleed
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i know a girl who wears hijab. she even covers her face . only her eyes can be seen and thats how she took CS. she passed on first attempt. so that shouldnt be problem. I'm not sure how many programs are open enough to accept a candidate with hijab, though.
I was curious becoz some of my friends wear hijab and they are hesitant about applying to programs this year because of this. if anybody has any interveiw or match experience with the Hijab, please do let me know coz this will help these girls so much.
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| tocket
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I think that if you live in a christian sociaty such as USA,
you have to INTEGRATE in that society.
If you want to wear "hijab", wear it in your country.
We also can not wear "BIKINIS" in arabic countries.
Regards
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| smak
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about wearing the hijaab to the CS...now it's really ur own personal choice.like i said...it DOESN'T make any difference...but since u r so concerned abt it,now i feel it will have a psychological effect,where u might feel u underwent some prejudice b/c of it.
go for CS with the hijaab if u feel confident abt it...otherwise leave it home.
my friend has always worn hjab,has amazing credentials...and matched at Baylor last year...so wat other proof do u want??i feel when people r not upto the mark themsemves then they start blaming things like hijaab for not doing well in life...that's ridiculous.
good luck with watever u decide.
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| Vai
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CS it is an interpersonal skills and communication exam first of all. Do you think that wearing a hijab will hurt or help you in your interaction with a patient who comes from a society with other believes? As a patient, why should i trust in you and let you know all me deep secrets if you do not trust in me hidden yourself behind a hijab. The CS exam simulate the real life and you should act as a real doctor, future practitioner in USA no in other country. Try to picture in your mind a Scottish origin doctor wearing a kilt in ICU( no offense). In my country there is folk clothes but in USA i will wear that kind of clothes that will stimulate best the patient confidence in me (maybe in your country hijab will do that but certainly not in US).
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| smak
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Hi Vai,
I think you misunderstood the concept of hijaab.it's not folk clothing.a scarf around one's head(hijaab) is a very personal choice and religious decision...not a cultural trend.i feel everyone has the right to follow his/her beliefs as far as religion is concerned.
i think being a good physician requires alot more and no patient in his right mind wud feel uncomfortable with a capable doctor just because her head is covered with a scarf!
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| Vai
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i think this site have other propose, you can send me a PM. what do you think about a monk in a cape with a sthetoscope around neck call himself doctor? (quote you: "is a very personal choice and religious decision...not a cultural trend"). This is my oppinion, maybe i am wrong and for sure we push this to far.
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| tocket
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Imagine the following situation:
I am living in saudi arabia,
and I am a non muslim.
My religion allows me to wear a bikini or TOPLES outfit on the beach.
Can I wear that in that conservative country or for example in Turkey?
No!
I have to respect the culture there.
And Vise versa.
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| dharjma
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dude have you been to the USA? its OK to wear you hijab there. barring a few ignorant people you pretty much are fine. it is not disrespectful to anyone if you cover yourself up. its not obscene to cover your hair (as opposed to wearing a bikini). would you wear a bikini in a church? no cause its obscene. would you cover your head in a church? sure thats fine. old irish ladies do that all the time! hope you understand the concept.
anyway bottom line is patients have the right to chose their own doctors regardless of their prejudice. therefore some may even choose AMG over IMG even if all IMGs disagree. some may even choose not to see a Serbian doctor or a northern irish doctor. so you will always meet people with prejudice. move on.
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| dharjma
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oh and even if youre religion allows you to be topless in a beach in the USA, there are MANY beaches that are non-nude, and you will still be charged if you go topless. its a matter of abiding the law. its a matter of being obscene to 3 yr old kids who are planning to have a picnic at the beach. so there, dont compare the right to be topless with wearing hijab, they are two very very different things. keep the peace.
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| Vai
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Dharjma, you are perfectly right. Tocket posts are just humorous. But you totaly miss the subject of Afds topic. My oppinion is that a hijab certainly will not help, rather will create disadvantage in exam and future endeavour as a doctor ( if i and tocket think like that, for sure in USA will be many patients and standardized patients who may think even worse)
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| doc_droc_apurva
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i have lived in the middle east for the first 15yrs of my life.. and i am a non muslim
pls ppl what i wanna say is that god resides within ur consciousness. u dont need hijab if ur intentions are right. and no hijab can protect u if u do somethin wrong.. ppl are not flawless.. u stand a chance (no matter how miniscule) of facing prejudice from ignorant ppl in exam and life. so why take the chance in a career definin exam.. dont wear it for a day - god wont punish u.. and ur not bein infidel or unfaithful - ur just bein smart
my 2 cents
apurva
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| aysecik1
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what is this nonsense. first of all that is so strange someone who is muslim and asking otherpeoples opinion about not to wear hijab or not. If you wear hijab and you studied well for your exam Allah will help you. don't you know your religion and your values why do you need somone elses opinion on this. poliyana@hotmail.com
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| msashraf
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afds wrote:
please any one tell m that anybody had hijab when they were taking cs ?
will that matter?on cs
i wear hijab and i passed my cs in first attempt.
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| msashraf
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tocket wrote:
I think that if you live in a christian sociaty such as USA,
you have to INTEGRATE in that society.
If you want to wear "hijab", wear it in your country.
We also can not wear "BIKINIS" in arabic countries.
Regards
by wearing hijab u are not hurting anyones feeling but if u wear bikini in any muslim country then u are being insensible to their culture and feelings. the 2 scenarios cannot be compared.
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| tocket
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Who told you that by wearing hijab you do not hurt peoples feeling?
Your feelings are not hurt, but you can never know how other people feel when you sweat
and the smell of your hijab reaches 100 miles.
For all people who wear hijab, please please keep it clean!
Wash it, disinfect if. It is OBLIGATORY for a muslim to be clean!!
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| md_doc
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Tocket, you have gone too far and you need to be respectful to other members and be polite when you critcize other "religions and socities" and should expect some repercussions for your rude behaviour. Thanks God americans(99%, I am not talking about ABCDs) are not stupid and narrow minded like you.
Now Ms afds, you should understand that its an exam not a health facility you are going to visit. Here, in US, pepople like Tocket are not the ones whoe make policies and not judgmental by your apperance when they judge your performance. You will find ppl and subjects (at least their fake names indicate diversity) of varied religions. So, don't worry about your hijab (though I am not sure about covering whole face) and perform well.
However, in residency match there might be some (5-10%) hesitancy/discrimination towards minortiesas it is always there for almost in all societies, more in some uneducated societies.
May be some day we learn that skin and religions are for humanly values, most of religions want to save your hereafter from HELL......and to do that sometime they make your wordly life worse than HELL.
Last thing, for all fellow members this topic is to help each other not for religious discussion and if such issue needed to be addressed, should be discussed in proper forums. I think this forum is for residency and stuff.
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| aysecik1
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for people who are ignorant about islam please go read about it. don;t just talk nonsense
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| ssandhu112
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i m not a muslim,but still i dont understand why some people are intolerant to other religions.learn tolerance,dont disregard other religions. keep this forum for discussion on residency only.please dont fight over religion here.every religion teach tolerance,not hatred
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