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I understand that you are frustrated by all the rejections, but please be fair in your complaints. Of course, AMGs will always be considered before us-IMGs, just because of the simple fact that this is THEIR country, I think it is only fair. If you are brilliant and better then avarage AMG that they will consider you, I am sure. How would you feel, if in your native country you had to compete with so many foreigners as AMGs have to, I guess you would not like it...You are not the only one who is having tough times with getting interviews, but please, don't blame it on AMGs. If you fail here you always have a choice of going back to your country and be doctor there, don't you?...Anyway, that is just my opinion..
Good Luck to everybody!
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| md2besoon
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I have no idea how it works, but let me tell you guys something. I am sure that visa or citizenship has nothing to do reg chances of getting into residency. One of my friends, who graduated 3years ago, and just came to this country,with 85 and 89 from steps, pending CS, no USCE, (need visa). He applied for IM, and got 7 interviews from really good hospitals (Hopkins, Mt.Sinai just an example). Another guy, graduated in 1992, out of practice for 3 years, middle 80's from steps, pending CS, no USCE, GC got few invitations from middle class hospitals. I know well those people, I know that they do not have any connections or other facts making their application better. The onle preference for AMG in this country I know about is that AMG will know match results earlier than us, so they have more chances in scramble.
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| DrMary
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Hi all....since everyone is saying that USCE is very important, would getting a job as a medical assistant qualify as USCE? Or does one have to roatate in a hospital to get USCE? I was looking at different hospitals online that offer observership but its quite expensive and have no money to pay for the fee.
How about research? Can that be considered a plus if I dont have any USCE?
Advices would be greatly appreciated.Thanks!
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| md2besoon
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I am working as a medical assistant in the hospital's ER - does not count 
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| doc_droc_apurva
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rejection letter - what it really means - i came across this in a different forum - enjoy
Dear PD,
Thank you for your continuing interest and aspiration to have me in your program. However at this time it is not possible for me to individually grant every program director the time to know me better.
As you are well aware, I am an IMG, and have passed all 3 steps, have more experience than AMGs, and require red carpet treatment, which Im sorry to say your program could not possibly offer.
I wish you better luck in your search for exceptional candidates. I could put in a good word or two regarding your program to my fellow IMGs.
Please do not take this unacceptance as a failure and Im sure you will eventually manage to fill up your vacant slots (be they AMGs).
All the best.
Apurva
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| fetus
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Here is other version of rejection:
"We want to emphasize that from the information we have received, it is clear that many people think very highly of your capabilities and potential, and we sincerely trust that our decision will not discourage you in your pursuit of a career in Internal Medicine. We wish you every success in this endeavor."
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| H_H
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i have applied to 60 programs, got 9 rejection and 1 interview
but where is the response of the other programs ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| AK32
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26 rejections 0 interviews
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| AK32
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26 rejections 0 interviews
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| AK32
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26 rejections 0 interviews
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| md2besoon
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 doc_droc_apurva I like your rejection letter
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| Real Life
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People - BE REALISTIC!!!!
Nobody heave an interest in rejecting good applicants. It is bullshit that 99 IMG candidates are being rejected. The only applicants I know, who being rejected are those with multiple USMLE attempts, and low score (75-82).
I know an idiot who passed Step 1 and 2, each on 5th attempt, and still applying this year.
Idiot, because he has no chance to get anywhere; why he is doing this? God only knows.
Be realistic, there is so many other jobs you can do. Do not waste your life and money. They are others, better than you, is it that difficult to understand that?
Stories about great preferences AMG’s have you can tell to someone who have no idea about it. Everybody knows IMG’s, now residents who get into the programs with middle scores. So, why you are posting here information about yourself which cannot be truth?
What are you trying to show on this forum?
Be realistic, if you have a history of multiple USMLE attempts plus low (I mean just passing) score, forget abut being MD in this country. Don’t waste your life, and start looking for something else. Whoever created this topic on this forum must be in deep depression; hope will wake up soon enough…
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| Googly
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DEAR REAL LIFE HURTS,
all the people talking here know very well that real life hurts
and they also know that there r many other jobs they can do, many of them r already doing and the rest will also do if they wont find residency,this is not important what u got and what u didnt the important thing is that what did u try for,and how hard u tried .we all all trying are best ,let us do that.
person who have 5 attempts and passing scores may be an idiot for you today but he may be a very successful doctor after some years.GOD ONLY KNOWS.
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| K1
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246/265 . Last year, with these scores you could easily get a prematch position. This year : reject letters from some hospitals and a few invitations. Someone seeing only the full half of the bottle would say: no problem, you will have plenty of time to prepare them better.And matching chances will remain the same.
Good luck doctors
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| md2besoon
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Dear Real Life
Edited by md2besoon on 11/15/05 - 03:36 PM
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| dr_singh246
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keep the thread funny.
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| fetus
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Real Life,
We all know that not only the scores playing role in PD decision, but USCE, visa , publications, etc..
I got 20th rejections with credentials: 95/98/CS passed(all first attempt)/ECFMG certif/2 publications/ 1 PGT yr/ no USCE/need visa.
This yr I think is exceptionally crazy competitive, i.e - # of applicants & their credentials.
Another ex' of rejection:
"Thank you for your interest in our programs. We regret to inform you
that we are unable to offer you an interview. This is an extremely
competitive year and had many difficult choices to make. We wish you
the best of luck in pursuing your career".
your comments?
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| fetus
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while I wrote the above post - I got additional rejection .
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| chemamr
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this topic started being funny, let´s keep it in that way guys.
About real life hurts´comment: i think everybody know their real possibilities in the match and their chances to get the residency they are looking for. It´s a package (scores, USCE, visa, #attempts, etc.) and it depends on the competitivity of the residency. I think there are too many IMGs studying their residency in USA with average scores and they become great doctors (like AMGs) and once they are attending physicians (internists, surgeons, etc.) , patients don´t care about your USMLE scores, USCE, etc., that will be forgotten.
I hope we have more luck in the rest of the match.  
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| Mxshrink
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Real life; I dont know your scores or your situation, maybe you learned a lot from medschool, who knows, but theres something I know, you havent learned from the worlds greatest teacher, life. Failure is the best experience you can have, and if you are really interested in what you want, it will make yu try harder.
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