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i think the shrink is right...... i dont have any first-hand knowledge or anythin, but it looks like the fellowships are granted by...i cant find the word so im gonna write it in spanish..."compadrazgo"...it really looks like if ure familiar with the place (meaning if u made ur residency there) u almost are in....and if u didnt...well, it may be a matter of wether u know them and they know u....i dunno, maybe im totally off...so...this may not clear ur doubt, but I just couldnt resist to give my opinion.
on the other hand I think I can understand you...those may not be the scores u were hoping/aiming for...but then, what the hell, ure done with the most stressing part of this journey...all u have to do left is make ur application even stronger...do the research u told us about, get some papers published, maybe another rotation, another US LOR...think about it this way...all those thing will help u get a better and better program, a program with fellowships u may like...so, once ure in there for surgery, ull be in there for the fellowship....
im a true believer of going one step at a time....it´s just unbereable otherwise....i remember six months ago, my gf (now ex-gf) kept askin mw where was I going to leave to...she was "r u gonna live in DC?....are u gonna try to move to NY?...are u gonna go for forensics or for surgical pathology after u finish?...maybe u should go to Dallas, since u got many firends there.." I was,like "ok stop right there. I passed step 1. I got at least 10 huge things to think about, and maybe a year or two, before i ask myself those questions"......i know ure supposed to be a visionary and always be one step ahead, but, (and this is my own personal opinion) it seems premature to torment oneself about those things......
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Its true that i should study ECG for step 1? and CT and x-ray? MRI ? 'cuz i dont know anything about those things 
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| chemamr
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you know them spitmetal, you are a physician  . Yes, you must have some basics of those things for all the steps (including step 1).
thank you guys for your support.
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| Medusin
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Chema, dont give up. You still have a lot to aim for. Just keep going at it. You are finished with all the Steps and that is a feat on its own. Enjoy it.
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Hello to all of you guys and ladies. I got my score last saturday, ON MY BIRTHDAY! LOL funny.
I got 81/198, not the best, but i am optimistic, cant help it. i am happy with the score. Thanks to all of you for you felicitaciones, Good luck to you all, seguimos en contacto.
Apoyo para los hispanos inmigrantes, specially the mexicans YEAH!
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YEAH !! 
I have another question (yes i know another) if i live in chihuahua but i want that my scheduling permit arrive to el paso, TX what should i do? is that possible?
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Well spitmetal, do you have any relatives in el paso where the permit can arrive? If so, you have to change your contact info on the ecfmg oasis web page. Put your relative or friend's address in el paso.
I think you can do that, at least from my recent address change experience. If anyone has suggestions be glad to post them LOL. Hope it helps spitmetal.
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Chema, my friend,
Dont be discouraged! you know, although I dont know about step 3 and its importance for fellowship, I remember during my interviews, I asked the residents if I should take step3 before I entered residency, and they told me that it was up to me, because once you are in residency nobody cares anymore about your scores in the steps...so there. What it is really important to get a fellowship is research during your residency, electives and LOR's from doctors in the subspecialty of your choice and of course connections as well, as noxar stated.
Listen to what noxar said, I agree 100%: One step at a time buddy!
la cara bien en alto y animo!
sincerely, Lore
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spitmetal wrote:Its true that i should study ECG for step 1? and CT and x-ray? MRI ? 'cuz i dont know anything about those things
HI SPITMETAL,
Yes, you need to study that for basically all your steps. It is not that hard..I remember I used to have a hard time with CT scans, this website helped me a lot, because it is anatomy in cross section. I hope you find it useful:
http://www.anatomyatlases.org/HumanAnatomy/CrossS...
enjoy,
Lore
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| spitmetal
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Jeje thanks drgaxmac I thought the same as you but I really don’t know if that’s legal jejeje I’m a little paranoid im really afraid of the irregular behavior notes, I feel like the greengos hate us and just expect for one little mistake to throw u away jejej, I’m just kidding I WOULD CHANGE MY CONTAC INFO thanks a lot drgax
Thanks lore I love the page I think it would help with CT
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| noxar311
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yup spitmetal, the address-related stuff works as drgax said...put the address u want in ur oasis info....one piece of wise advise for paranoid freaks as me (and urself, so it seems) GET A US ADDRESS!!!! they (mexican postal office) lost my step 1 scheduling permit twice...well i dont know If THEY lost it, but it certainly never arrived at my home....so...just save urself some major tantrums and heartburns and get a us address.....
if u think u cant see a ct scan, dont worry....the tests are way more that that...and the ones u get..are really easy, and most of the questions with ct´s and mri´s can actually even be answered without looking at the images....if u still feel uncertain, then just do what I did with EKG´s (i cannot read one single feature on the EKG)...GIVE THEM UP!!! lol.... i figured learning proper EKG reading would help me answer 2 or 3 questions (i got 3 ekg´s in step 1 and 2 combined) but that info would "displace" the info to the answers of maybe 5 o 10 q´s...lol I know it sounds lame but thats the way I wanna see it....is not for you to know but I just hate cardio stuff... dont worry about those things....
americans dont hate u..they certainly dont love u but i dont think any american has anything personal against an IMG (unless, of course u keep calling them the G word...)
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Congratulations both to Chema and drgaxmac!
Chema, I agree with the rest; I perfectly understand that you would like a better grade; everyone is like that but at the same time I think that it`s awesome that you are done with the steps; and you won`t have to worry about that kind of tests until you are done with residency and have to get board certified. It`s a great accomplishment and you should feel very proud of yourself. About fellowships I have no idea since I`m not there yet obviously. However, I agree with what most people have said (including the answers you got on sdn; I happened to bump into your thread). In general, with any fellowship in the us I think that what matters the most is research and your Letters of Recommendation. The first step is to get into a residency and become part of the system. Once you are in , it`s all up to you and your hard work to get the fellowship of your dreams; and you`ll have several years, while being a resident to take care of that. I`m sure that if you do the above, you`ll be just fine. Finally, asking in SDN was a very good idea; the problem, however, is that that`s mostly a forum for american grads; therefore I would suggest trying http://www.usmleforum.com/, where it`s mostly imgs; they might have something to say. Again, congratulations.
Drgaxmac, good job! You are almost certified now; it`s a great feeling; no let down though; you are almost there; you will soon be ready to move on to the next step in getting into residency; you`ll be just great; have you had any luck finding observerships/research/clinical experience? Take care and, again, felicidades!
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| general malaise
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hi spitmetal, about the ekg's at a minimum u should know the ones in FA. or just memorize the major changes seen in important pathologies even if u can't recognize them on a strip. most of the practice questions i've been doing describe the ekg changes in the stem and its a dead giveaway to the underlying path. about CT's and MRI's if u know your cross-sectional anatomy u should do fine.
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| chemamr
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CONGRATULATIONS drgaxmac, well done buddy!, 1 step less in your count.
thanks all of you for your support.
i feel more relieved now, my conclusion is that step 3 is only one more factor in the list of the selection criteria for fellows, but it's one of the least important (the major factors are: research, LORs, contacts, fellow in your hospital, electives, etc.); it could be a little bit more important if you are applying to a very competitive fellow (in IM= cards, Gastro). That's the conclusion of my research about this issue.
see you later
Edited by chemamr on 04/11/06 - 07:50 AM
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hey guys: what's your opinion about "Un dia sin mexicanos" and the new US policy of deportations and all that????
noxar: about your comment that americans don't hate us, i'm not so sure. Of course, it varies. But, I think racism exists in USA against mexicans/color people, for instance. I think you must show them you are different, you are a good doctor, educated, decent, capable, to gain their respect. Otherwise, they will continue with their prejudice.
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another message 3 in a row... whatever ...
i've just briefly checked (i'm some obssessive compulsive, i know) and this topic is one of the most viewed and replied of the prep4usmle forum. I think we are in the top 10. And probably top 5 but not completely sure, i'm not gonna check all the topics  . But, more or less.
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I Agree with chema 100%. So our only option? Let's show them.
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chema and drgaxmac congratulations!!
Lore I went to a marcha yesterday!!
Today we march tomorrow we vote!!!!!
Los caucasicos are afraid they are becoming the minority race!! When ever they say "we" they do not mean all the races but "we" the white people. Miedo but finally we have the power in the vote and most important economic power!!
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Thats awsome silatk! I wish I was there to participate, here in hawaii there are not a lot of mexicans/hispanics so there is really not much going on.
I personally dont think americans hate us mexicans, of course there are always some racist freaks out there that are using terrorism and national security as an excuse to stop mexican/hispanic immigration. But in general I agree with noxar: They dont hate us but certainly they dont love us. I also think like chema that in our case -doctors, we have to prove we are good professionals, responsible, educated, etc.
I have never felt discriminated or experienced racism, however many times I felt nobody in USA believed in me -that I could pass the boards, that I am a licensed doctor in Mexico, etc- except of course my husband. I can just tell you guys something, "toma las cosas como de quien vienen", they are usually ignorant people. Attitudes of people like this, only made me stronger and it was a huge motivation to study even harder.
Arriba Mexico!
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that's great silatk, with your participatin in those marches.
"I have never felt discriminated or experienced racism, however many times I felt nobody in USA believed in me -that I could pass the boards, that I am a licensed doctor in Mexico, etc- except of course my husband." = that's what i mean, they don't trust us, they think we are uncapable, but they don't even know us, they are only prejudices. whatever.
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Hey everybody,
The marches were pretty big here in Austin. I think it is a very interesting topic and that there is a some degree of racism against us mexicans. I remember about two months ago there was a med school fair at UT campus and there were med schools from all over. I went to talk to the guy of Baylor College of Medicine and told him I was interested in some kind of research program for the summer or something of that sort. When I told him I was a medical student in Mexico he looked at me ¨con una cara de pocos amigos¨ and was really rude to me, telling me there were no programs available for international students.
It is true, I dont think they trust us. They do think we dont have their same skill and intelligence, but as Chema said, that is why we have to show them just how prepared we are. There is no holding back.
Congratulations drgaxmac.
About the EKG´s and MRI´s and that stuff. I dont think its a good idea to just memorize them. Hey we are going to be doctors and reading an EKG, MRI or CT scan is going to be part of our career. We might as well start learning them.
In other things... what do you guys think about the med shows that have been getting so popular? Greys Anatomy, Nip Tuck, Dr.90210, ER, etc. I personally am a fan of Greys anatomy and ER.
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obviously all doctors need to have a profound knowledge of CT, MRI and EKG's. but i think spitmetal is refering specifically to step 1. spending too much time learning to interpret radiology and ekg's is not high-yield for the exam.
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jejej well i just start reading rapid interpretation of EKG by dubin is the perfect book is brief and very easy to understand (a for dummy's kind of book) it think that in 30 min readdings in 7 days i will finish it so thanks for your help if u know a easy way of reading CT MRI x-rays please tell me 'cuz im in 3rd grade so theres a lot of things i dont know
in my school (UACHihuahua) u take cardio in 4th and imagenology in 5th year  im waiting my scheduling permit and im very nervous jeje
and somebody lend my kaplan books please i will return them i'll pay the shipping PLEASE!!!!!!
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im poor  well im not poor but im not rich either
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