maa
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hi:
just wanted to get your opinion. please feel fee to comment. i have done 3 years of medical school in mexico; then transferred to Ross. now that i have passed step1. i m not really sure if i should head back to Mx or to ross. i do know that ross is better school though. as far as money, i think it will cost me around 75K at ross; vs. 40K or 45K at Mx just to do clinicals. although i m not thinking about going into some very competitive field; now that i said that; heres what i know about ross, i have faxed ross my scores; and it is taking them forever to get back with me. i faxed them 2 weeks ago; and still no response. should i still wait for their response?? or just go back to MX and finish the school.. there's not that many desi in Mx; although theres lots of them at ross; so that would help me a bit. basically i got 1yr left at mx, and may be 11/2 or 2 at ross. please let me know..thanks
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| gbono2
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What a stupid question - duh. Go to Mexico - A). less time to finish (B). Less cost (c) comparable schools. This is a no brainer. Are you sure that you are capable of making a decision w/a patient?
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| maa
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warning GBONO2
A) No you are wrong-not less time-takes you 6 yrs to get an MD degree. wake up !
C) please go attend that school; do some research and let me know; i will wait for your response;
As far as your last question; that is so rude and impolite; im sure you are not a med student; even if you are go back to college and get some decent education and learn how to speak to people........
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| gbono2
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No I'm no longer a med student. I've already graduated.
I still feel the same about your infantile question.
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| CampNou
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gbono2, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that WAS rude. I am sure you were having a horrible day when you say and it was just a slip up.
Maa, as to your question, I do not have that info for comparison, but I do know this. At the end, a great doctor can be made under a tree with a stack of books and practice. So don't distress, as long as quality is comparable by some margin, then the shortest road is the best. I transferred from a very reknown school to another school after my second year in medschool and I graduated 1 1/2 year before my friends and am already going to take step 1 before they even begin to study. So for me it worked. I studied hard and am better prepared to take this test. The faster you finish, the faster you'll be starting.
GL,
JC
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| maa
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thanks CampNou; really appreciate your response. just to give you some differences b/c theses two schools...in Mx, everything is so easy, stress free and you don't learn anything when you come out of med school. then you have to go and do fifth pathway which is another year in NY. also i know you don't get a MD degree; you will get some kind of certificate from Mx school; as far as residency goes; most students either end up getting family practice or internal medicine; at Ross you have clinicals in US, get a MD degree and probably get a better residency; as far as financial situation, Ross would cost be about 75k, where as Mx would be about 40 or 45k; ross does have a better reputation as well; any comments on this comparison...yeah what you said about transfer is true though... less time....please let me if possible as to what your thoughts on this comparison is........once again thanks a lot.........
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| CampNou
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Well, depends on what residency you want. I belive that getting a degree is important, at least for me. Now, is it worth 30k a year more? Don't know. Do you have a cheaper option than Ross?
Internal Med. is the residency I am aiming at. From there you can jump to other residencies. I am planning on doing Cardiology and then Invasive Cardiology, so Internal Med. is where I am heading. Now, if you want Surgery, OB/GYN or Pediatrics then Ross is your answer. Depends on what is important for you. Before making a decision, calculate the time/cost and how much time will it take you to make all that money you are spending. That's a good way to see what your true option is. If it takes me 20 more years to make my investment profitable, then I'd say it's a bad deal. That how you should look at it. We are in this earth for so much time, we don't want to spend most of that time paying debts.
Remember, you can later transfer or choose to take another residency later on if you want. There are ways. So don't distress. I'll paint you this scenario: Imagine you finish in MX 1 year before Ross. You are in the US on your first year of residency in Internal Med. You decide on changing to another residency the following year or you apply for a transfer (I don't know how exactly that works or what the contract says), then the following year you are in another residency, another hospital, or at least you are established and you have a plan on switching. Meanwhile you are close to the time that you would have been finishing Ross and probably in the residency you always wanted to be in. Plus you have saved some moeny you could use to get started in a new apartment, new car, furniture, plasma TV, whatever.
It all depends on our plans buddy. Think about your goals and what important to you.
JC
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| chable
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hey maa,
heres what i think. i too am a medical student in mexico right now and youre right, people can slack off, party and not take medical as seriously as some people in the US. thats part of beauty of studying in mexico. the decision before you is very difficult, granted, but you must really know where you want your life to take you. by this i mean, have you always wanted to do a specialty in the united states? if so, i would recommend that you attend Ross. from what i hear about Ross, they have the capacity to make the transition from med school to a specialty a little easier than what most schools in mexico can. i too am interested in obtaining an MD from the US and have begun to study from step 1 in hopes of transfering to a US-afiliated medical school. The thing is, a lot of residency programs in the US require that you do rounds at a hospital in the US. Several schools in Mexico can offer exchange programs that would meet those needs, but if youre looking to live in the US, id transfer over to Ross..get a good tan...experience life in the Carribean... and see where that takes you.
if youre not busy, id really like to know what school in mexico you go to and what you know about transfering to other medical schools. my email is: dr.fern@gmail.com
fernando
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| maa
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thank you guys Campnou and chable. i got the idea; its just that having finish 3 yrs in mx, i have only 1yr in Mx now, and 1yr in NY for fifthfathway, so basically that's a total of 2 yrs before i start residency and some extra time for passing boards b/c education is really bad in Mx; i guess it takes same time at Ross as well but you learn and will get thru sooner b/c the hospitals in US will teach you better and you will end up passing boards sooner with a degree; the thing it boils down to like you guys said money, time, and knowledge. wow, i can't belieive how im thinking now...... its like my mind is relying more on Ross, but my instinct are telling me to go for Mx b/c its easy to finish and no competition with other students. although i have never thought of which residency to go for. but i think i should do some research on that as well. i mean, which residency is easier to do?? which is more security for you ( as far as future wise, getting sued)? like i heard stories on OB/GYN and surgery? getting sue and all that. getting degree is sure a nice thing. do you all know if theres a book which tells you more about these stuff?? thank you guys again, and look forward to your response.......
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| CampNou
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No residency is "easy", except maybe Family Practice. It all comes down to the system a particular hospital uses and the working hours. I'd say Surgery and OB/GYN are some of the riskiest residencies in terms of malpractice cases. If you haven't figured out what you want to be doing in the future, then I'd say start by figuring that out first before thinking about moving.
How do you see yourself in the future? Making big bucks and working 100+ hours a week? Making a normal amount of money for a 60-80 hour a week schedule? Or are you going for the minimum with <50 hours a week? Are your scores competetive enough to apply for Surgery? Or are they in the mean for Internal Med? These are things you should start thinking about. Whatever you do, make a plan and stick to it.
JC
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| maa
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thanks campnou, you do have some interesting questions. is there any website or any books that you would recommened as to how to go about choosing a residency? may be hrs/wk. salary, future security, less getting sued, etc...may be a bookstore??
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| CampNou
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That info you can find floating on the net. Just Google it. I did a quick search on Google and founf this link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/007...
I don't know anything about the book just the fact that it has been highly rated in Amazon. Don't know if it's what you are looking for though.
GL,
JC
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