bose Forum Senior
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| | 05/05/05 - 07:35 AM  
 
   
 
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Which of the following electrolyte abnormalities is most likely seen in DKA? a) Hyperkalemia and Hyperphosphatemia b) Hyperkalemia and Hypophosphatemia c) Hypokalemia and Hyperphosphatemia d) Hypokalemia and Hypophosphatemia e) Hypercalcemia and Hypophosphatemia f) Hypocalcemia and Hypophosphatemia Can you also explain the reason? This Q is from NBME.
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| dev Forum Guru

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| | 05/05/05 - 07:42 AM  
 
   
 
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i thinkits B.but not sure. how did u get the questions form nbme?didu note them down
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| bose Forum Senior
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| | 05/05/05 - 07:46 AM  
 
   
 
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Answer is Hypokalemia + Hypophosphatemia
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| bobby Forum Guru
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| | 05/10/05 - 12:29 PM  
 
   
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correct ans. D. Hypokalemia and Hypophosphatemia hyperglycemia and hyperketonemia that result from DKA will spill over into the urine causing an osmotic diuresis to occur. This profound diuresis causes significant electrolyte losses particularly potassium, phosphate and magnesium. Although the patient is losing many electrolytes, their initial levels may be normal or elevated due to cell death (from dehydration) within the body and release of intracellular electrolytes. [acidosis, which develops due to the increased ketones in the serum, promotes potassium moving out of cells (hyperkaliemia) to buffer the pH change. (hydrogen moves into the cells, potassium moves out)] Hypokalemia is usually a complication that is precipitated by failing to rapidly address the total body potassium deficit brought out by rehydration and insulin treatment, which not only reduce acidosis but directly facilitate potassium reentry into the cell. Phosphate (and also magnesium) replacements are not typically needed, since levels correct when patient resumes eating. hope this helps.
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| bose Forum Senior
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| | 05/10/05 - 06:02 PM  
 
   
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Awesome explanation! Good job Bobby.
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| iota Forum Newbie
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| | 05/24/05 - 12:03 PM  
 
   
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any one please clear the doubt: total body K and phosphate are low due to osmotic diuresis in DKA. BUT DKA pt presents with hyperkalemia and hyperphostemia because of lack of insulin and ketoacidosis . it is only after when treatment is started then we start seeing hypokalemia and hypophosphatemia. so ans is A or D...?? anyone please explain this...
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| piter Forum Elite
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| | 05/24/05 - 02:22 PM  
 
   
 
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agree with iota in acute DKA (before treatment) there are Hyperkalemia and Hyperphosphatemia!
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| nightflight1945 Forum Guru
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| | 06/07/05 - 06:46 AM  
 
   
 
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The correct answer is B. Hyperkalemia is due to shift of potasium out of cell along with water to replace extracellular water deficit(although the total body potasium content is usually less than normal) for phosphate I don't know the exact reason but it is written in Harrison's without anty comment on its reason
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| REDHEAD Forum Junior
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| | 06/15/05 - 11:03 AM  
 
   
 
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It is the acidosis that drives the K out of the cells; as soon as you give insulin and corect the acidosis the hyperK may turn into hypoK.
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| Vai Forum Elite
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| | 06/15/05 - 12:57 PM  
 
   
 
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the term kalemia or phosphatemia(-emia) refer to the blood value of "k" and no to the total body "k" thus kalemia will be elevated because of acidosis in DKA in spite of lower level of total body "k" from renal wasting
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