Diego
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Hi everybody, this is a message for all the IMG in the States, who sometimes go through very difficult times adjusting to a new culture, studying for the Steps, getting jobs that are not related to Medicine.
HANG ON!! You are not alone!! Please , never forget that you are already a Doctor!!!! Even if you fail the steps you are still a Physician, no matter what country you come from!!!
A big hug, don't give up, and Good Luck!!!!
Diego.
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Thanks for your message. You are so right! We should never forget that.
So, everybody, hang in there and let's go for it!
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| md2besoon
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:icon_salut: YOU ARE RIGHT :icon_salut:
<:flag:> YOUR MESSAGE SHOULD BE POSTED EVERYWHERE ON THIS SITE <:flag:>
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| SilatK
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 EXACTLY!!!! DO NOT FORGET!!! SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF SEEN MANY PATIENTS IN ONE DAY. TREATED THEM FOR MANY ILLNESSES AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF BEING A DOCTOR, YOU HAVE ALREADY WORKED AT PREVENTING PEOPLE GETTING SICK!!
SOME OF YOU ALREADY HAD THE BAD EXPERIENCE OF SEEING WHAT IS LIKE WHEN SOMEONE DIES IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE WORST PART OF HAVING TO TELL THEIR FAMILY ABOUT THE DEATH OF THEIR MOTHER OR FATHER AND IN SOME CASES OF THEIR CHILDREN. SOME OF YOU ALREADY HAD THE GREAT EXPERIENCE OF HELPING A NEW MOTHER DELIVER HER FIRST BORN!!
DO NOT FORGET THAT!! DO NOT FORGET THAT YOU ARE ALREADY A DOCTOR NOT ONLY IN PAPER BUT AT HEART!!
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU DOCTORS!!!
KEEP READING AND READING AND READING AND READING!!
GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!
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| Gabriela
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Hi! Can anyone make a suggestion which type of work is the most appropriate and desirable, while you study for USMLE, I mean a financially secure, time sparing job? Or it is a bad choice if you don't work in research or in the medical field getting contact with patients?
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| SilatK
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Gabriela,
Well from personal experience it is best to not work at all but if you have to then try to do take on a part time job.
Also if you can work in any field related to medicine it will be the best since it keeps you in a way updated and "practicing".
I chose a job in a mental health unit. This has helped me since during medical school I did not obtain many hours of behavioral science classes.
Next month I will be off work for three months to review for step I.
Hope I could help you out.
Enrique
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I have read all desperate postings,questions and everything else ! Some are here because of family ( husband,kids ?),Some are here bec,time just passed and now they can't go back ? Some came here just because of curiosity and still in dilemma of going back to their country ...some day ?
NOW ,My question is for those people who still want to give USMLE and settle in USA ? Let me tell you that nothing is special here ,except little more money ! You will always be treated like second grade citizen ( skin color is important here ! )....You will always miss your culture ,social life and lot more ! Your kids will never understand the true value of theirselves....no matter how hard you will try......( In school,they will feel discriminated....even you think that you belong to higher social class and income group.... paying highest income taxes , and are good citizen etc. )
There are millions of things I can talk about here's life as an immigrant.So,think before taking any decision...after all that decision will be yours !!
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| soltres
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Sometimes, dear guest you prefer to be a second citizen in a foreign country than in your own place, and belive me the first hurts less :P :lol:
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| bbb
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"Anonymous" wrote:
You will always be treated like second grade citizen ( skin color is important here ! )....You will always miss your culture ,social life and lot more ! Your kids will never understand the true value of theirselves....no matter how hard you will try......( In school,they will feel discriminated....even you think that you belong to higher social class and income group.... paying highest income taxes , and are good citizen etc. )
I don't know anything about you, but I grew up in a major metropolitan area and don't believe what you wrote about being a second grade citizen. But if your children don't "understand the true value of theirselves", it's because their family hasn't taught them it. America is a land of immigrants, and have a very accepting way of life. I know, I live here.
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bbb - trying to combine common sense and humour into realistic answers, but not going to guess on anyone's chances of getting into a position....
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| Dr Eye
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There's some kind of discrimination even here in Canada where are most new immigrants.Dr's from France and Germany are treated differently
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| Dr. Jamali
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thankx for ur encouraging msg. i'v recently moved to the states after graduating from a med school, to join my family, and i find living here HORRIBLE! but ur msg did make a difference. would you please tell me if the LIVE kaplan classes are of any help? i mean, how far do they guarantee a good score? also, do lemme know if you know any1 who's taken them, so that i would know if they're worth taking?
thankx for ur help.
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| Diego
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Hi Jamali, thanks for your e mail! I didn't take any of the Kaplan's courses, so I would recommend you post a message in any of these forums.
There is also another forum with people w/lots of information , usmle.net, you can check there!
Anyways do not depair, we, the IMGs, are a bunch of people in the same situation and lots of them made it! 
Good Luck!!
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| asmi
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Thanks Diego for your good words .. <:flag:>
I fully agree with you .I too feel sometimes HORRIBLE because of many differences ( culture ect )but even then we have to carry on .
The only satisfying thing is that We had practised Medicine in our motherland . Remembering those days keep me HAPPY.
I keep saying " I don't know where iam going but Iam on my way"
Lets hope and trust The Almighty that our hardwork to get into residency here in USA will be rewarded one day..... :roll: WHEN We don't know"
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| achayo
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| doc_droc_apurva
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like those lines from the creed song
take all this foolish pride and leave it behind
bcoz one day it ends and one day v die
believe what u wil - that is yur right
but i chose to live - i chose to fight
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| dra_wen
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I understand what you are trying to say Guest, but many of us have families already living in the States and I think that whereever your family is.. that is where your heart is and where your home is.
So fellow IGMs don't ever give up... we can do it... just stay focused.
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| SilatK
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Hello to everybody,
I see they are some discontent faces here! Well one thing is for certain that if you did not grew up here in the US it will be somewhat difficult to adapt living here. But one thing for sure is that you will be treaty how you let others treat you. Remember that even if you are from another country there are still laws that protect you.
Someone said that is worst when you are treaty as a second class citizen in your own country and that is true. I was born in Mexico but I grew up here in the US. My family has been living here for quiet sometime, some of my family was born here in the US.
I went to Mexico for med school. Even thought my skin color is brown and ''look'' like a mexican I was treaty differently from the rest because of my way of thinking and my accent. Yes I was treaty as a second class citizen. I then knew what most indian people from mexico feel when they are discriminated because of how they dress and have an accent also when they speak Spanish. I was born in Oaxaca. A state in which they are many dialects and some there do not even speak spanish. Mexico's official language. I went to med school in mexico in a state that I was not born in and hardly knew anything about. In Oaxaca I actually did fit in I was not the only one who had an accent when he spoke spanish, also they the natives of Oaxaca have an accent.
In Mexico, the mexican immigrants that live here in the US are known as the'' profugos de el arado'' or the Escapee from the plow. A Very derrogatory remark towards there own people wouldn't you agree? The immigrants who came to the US in search of a better life had no other choice. As I did my social service up in the sierras, besides practicing medicine I got a reallity view of Mexico's economic and political situation. The point is clear if you do not have money it will be almost impossible for your kids to ever get a college level education. In some areas not even high school level education is accessible. But to this remark or anything similar I would say that is ignorance speaking. The people who make this type of comments are people that do not even know the reality of their own political and economic situation. The immigrants are seen as cowards for not confronting their living situation. This comments are made by well-off people who have never even bother looking beyond three miles from where they live. People who wouldn't be able to live in the shoes of those immigrants for one day. But they do not realize that more then 15% of the money that goes into Mexico is from those immigrants that escaped the plow! Money that is keeping their Daddy's company asurface. I come from a so call well-off mexican family and I did not get to see the reality of living out in the sierras or farmlands until I went to mexico to study medicine and did my social service in the mountains with people who have relatives here in the US.
Yeah I might sometimes be treaty differently here in the US because of my skin color and descendence but it is very rare and is usually by ignorant people or by those who are afraid and ignorant.
But I do not worry about them and neither should you who has recently come into this country. Just worry about your kids growing up well, you will adapt. This country was formed by immigrants with the help of more then one country. It is truly a melting pot! But go out of your way to get to know the area where you live and the people that live there. Each state is different like everyneighborhood is. I grew up and live in california. I have in my family descendants of differente races and they are speaking more than just English or Spanish.
Welcome!
Bienvenido!
Welkom!
See you later!
Hasta Luego!
Tot ziens!
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| drmaheen
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...im maheen.......my addresss is
sleepingpill79@yahoo.com
i'm very serious in studies but my plan is to give usmle step 1 in late august.........we can contact each other thru email and discuss about the books etc schedule etc....bye....
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| stemcell_baby
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Diego,
Hang On!
That is one great message :icon_salut: :icon_salut: <:flag:> <:flag:> =D>
Enrique,
Wonderful, awesome thoughts! :icon_thumb: :icon_thumb: <:flag:> <:flag:> =D>
To our guest,
<:from_book:> we understand you, we could only pray and hope that
life would be good as we do our best to find our place under the
sun. If it means sacrifice in exchange for being with family and love
ones, then, it is not in vain. It is all worth it.
To our fellow IMG's,
God is good all the time. He knows what is best for us and He
Knows the cries of our hearts. As Diego puts it.....Hang on!
Don't loose faith, work and study hard. Keep on dreaming,
Keep on believing. Never give up! Good luck and God bless to all of
us. :P
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| jrdagooc_md
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hi! im a medical intern here in the philippines. i, too, am interested in taking the USMLE next year. but am i doing it in order to immigrate to the US and leave my country for good? hmm...maybe. am i willing to go back to my country after my residency and fellowship? most probably.
i've heard a lot of stories from immigrant filipinos, how they were treated as second-class citizen in the US. it's quite unfair, coz they, too, pay their taxes to the US government. do i want to suffer the same fate? i hope not. but i still want to go to the US just to get the best training possible. i dont want to grow old and think how life would have been had i taken the MLE. i would like to take this opportunity while i am still young. if life in the US does not go the way i like it, i can always go back to my beloved country and practice the skills that i have learned. at least, i won't spend the rest of my life thinking of the what could have been.
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