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question guys....
want to obtain categorical surgery program. however, don't want to outrule possibility of prelim surgery.
so then....on the ERAS website...do you click both 'prelim' and 'categorical'??? or just 'categorical'
what i'm trying to say is that...if a program looks at your application...and think that they may give you prelim and if you have only clicked for 'categorical'...does that mean they don't even call for an interview?
on the other side, if you click 'prelim' and 'categorical'...the option asks what proposed field you want enter after prelim. they probably means things like plastics, ortho, neuro, or radiology (designated positions)
can anyone please give me some advice? i was told by someone that you have to choose either to be considered for 'categorical' or 'prelim'.
personally, i feel i fall somewhere in the middle.
foreign grad, high 80's on both steps, 3 yrs work experience in european surgical residency, 1 publication, 1 for publication, surg electives in US during student years, and ongoing research. any ideas?? please, i really need advice.
i'd love to get categorical...as i wanna do general. but, on the other side, don't wanna ende up jobless because i only clicked on 'categorical' on ERAS. thanks for advice
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| americadotcom
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Hi THere,
Just been very slow on answeing any queries that you guys might have had.As far as I am concerned I am a designated preliminary surgery and have been accpeted for the integrated vascular surgery position starting next year.This is the latest trend nowadays with the 5+1 being introduced instead of the usual 5+2+1 path.I matched this March.Regarding Bhagat's question I am an IMG with decent scores and strong clinical resaerch expereince with multiple publications and very strong references.I will suggest that you apply for both the positions especially since you might want to enhance your chances of matching.Some programs will call you for interview and depending on the interview decide to rank you either for categorical or preliminary surgery spot.Kindly
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| americadotcom
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(continued)......earlier post about enhancing your chances of matching.Being an IMG does become a hindering factor just to get in the system but once you are in(prelim or surgery) you will do well.Just make sure you understand that surgery does require long hours of cmmitment too.Take care and good luck.
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| bhagat
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Awesome program amercicadoc, never even heard of such a program. how did you publish so quickly? are you an older grad? does research help if you dont publish but have manuscripts pending? by the way i PM you please check it out when you have time. thanks alot.
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| hetal
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Hi americadotcom,
Thank you for your assistance. You said there are about 100 programs sponsoring H1B for surgery. I found the online IMG friendly lists that list only 40 programs doing that. Do you have any idea where we can find the rest of the programs?
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| maverick
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hey whats this integrated vascular surgery programs? how do i look up on this - freida?
what made u decide on vascular surgery so soon in life? had previous exposure? wondering because if I opt for it, and during the course realise that I prefer some other surgery
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| mercury1980
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Hi americandotcom (or anyone else who can help)
I would like to know how to go about obtaining a research position (preferably paid) that would help in getting a surgery residency later on. IMG, graduate of 2000, recently taken step 1 and no visa at the moment.
PLEASE HELP!
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| Abraham
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Hi guys,
I've been reading all your posts for i while and since i am interested in general surgery i've been trying to found some threats related with this topic.
I am from Mexico and i've just finished a 4 year surgery education at my own country. I've published in congresses and have some experience from Germany and Austria surgical rotations.
My question is: do you think that having completed a general surgery education in my country would be considered as a plus? I have my doubts in this regard course a PD might think that i am taking other applicatns chances to get into a surgery program when i already had training even if it was in my own country.
My credentials are: graduated in 2001, 95/89/passed, waiting for ECFMG cert, need J1, Europe LoRs, no USCE.
my best wishes...
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| Abraham
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Americandotcom.. very impressive credentials!!.
Any advice from you?
greetings to everyone!
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| surg
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question guys....
want to obtain categorical surgery program. however, don't want to outrule possibility of prelim surgery.
so then....on the ERAS website...do you click both 'prelim' and 'categorical'??? or just 'categorical'
what i'm trying to say is that...if a program looks at your application...and think that they may give you prelim and if you have only clicked for 'categorical'...does that mean they don't even call for an interview?
on the other side, if you click 'prelim' and 'categorical'...the option asks what proposed field you want enter after prelim. they probably means things like plastics, ortho, neuro, or radiology (designated positions)
can anyone please give me some advice? i was told by someone that you have to choose either to be considered for 'categorical' or 'prelim'.
personally, i feel i fall somewhere in the middle.
foreign grad, high 80's on both steps, 3 yrs work experience in european surgical residency, 1 publication, 1 for publication, surg electives in US during student years, and ongoing research. any ideas?? please, i really need advice.
i'd love to get categorical...as i wanna do general. but, on the other side, don't wanna ende up jobless because i only clicked on 'categorical' on ERAS. thanks for advice
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| maverick
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choose both
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| joel
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Edited by joel on 03/03/07 - 12:34 PM
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| panchal
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in surgery, its said that every year seats go unmatched, especially in preliminary positions.....these are available for post match......but to take part in post match, one should not have matched anywhere....if you dont get surgery in your ranked choices and get matched with an internal medicine prog or any other field then you would not be able to take part in post match for prelim open seats ..IS THIS TRUE???
also is it true that to apply to some prog in post match we necessarily need to have applied there earlier....or its nothing like that...
1 is it so that to be able to take part in post match, one should have necessarily taken part in match ?
2 in order to apply to some prog for post match, is it required to have applied there beforehand?
3 Suppose i rank 6 programs, top 3 for general surgery position and last 3 for internal medicine and then i dont match in general surg prog but match in internal medicine program, can i still take part in post match and apply for general surgery program which have open seats?
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| surg
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Once you match into a program, you are stuck. You cannot just 'leave' it. If you do that, you are disqualified to ever enter the NRMP match. Thats why they rank carefully and programs you can see yourself realistically going to.
In other words, if you match into an internal med program, you cannot apply for any other open positions
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| sustenance
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Surg is rite, the match is a binding contract and there is no way of leaving it. The only way of rematching is if you reapply the following year with permission from your current program of course, but even so, I doubt you'd be able to macth again as there will be a record of your leaving a paritcular program.
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| fox
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panchal wrote:
in surgery, its said that every year seats go unmatched, especially in preliminary positions.....these are available for post match......but to take part in post match, one should not have matched anywhere....if you dont get surgery in your ranked choices and get matched with an internal medicine prog or any other field then you would not be able to take part in post match for prelim open seats ..IS THIS TRUE???also is it true that to apply to some prog in post match we necessarily need to have applied there earlier....or its nothing like that...
1 is it so that to be able to take part in post match, one should have necessarily taken part in match ?
2 in order to apply to some prog for post match, is it required to have applied there beforehand?
3 Suppose i rank 6 programs, top 3 for general surgery position and last 3 for internal medicine and then i dont match in general surg prog but match in internal medicine program, can i still take part in post match and apply for general surgery program which have open seats?
Can someone answer questions 1 & 2 please?
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| BitterPill
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With ref to post by "fox" dtd Jan 3, 07
Ans 1. Yes
Ans 2. No
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| csdude
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i think
1 , No
2 , No but if u ve applied i think it ll save u the trouble of faxing !!
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| fox
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csdude wrote:
i think
1 , No
2 , No but if u ve applied i think it ll save u the trouble of faxing !!
this is what I've heard most people say
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| ladydoc123
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Just came across this blog.......looks promising......check it out surgery applicants
petitesurgeon.blogspot.com.......
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| ladydoc123
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Needless to say, the author of the blog is yours truly .....i look forward to hearing the feedback from you guys !!!
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| ManuNastai
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ladydoc, your link cannot be accessed. please post the corect link
Edited by ManuNastai on 05/03/07 - 12:27 PM
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| ladydoc123
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sorry ManuNastai, i was so excited about putting out my thoughts for all to see that i messed up. its petitesurgeon.wordpress.com. i have just posted two articles yet. Thanks
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| njemt369
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Hi everyone, I am going to attempt to match at a catagorical Gen. Surgery program this match. My stats are
99/99/Pass Straight A's in school. I am a caribbean medical student/grad...
How many programs do you think I need to apply to in order to get in?
Do you think 12-15 is enough? I would like to stay in MD, PA, NJ, DE...
I would appreciate any feedback! Thanks!!!
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| jeanbaptiste
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NJEMT369 ~
Your comment is very interesting !! 
Your thread in the CK exam experience says that your CK exam was 27 th of July.
But you already have your CK result here in this thread, which you wrote as 99.
Since my exam was 26th of July, I know that OASIS is not updated for me, I am sure that your OASIS is not updated either.
I can see that you have very high step1 score and very high CK UW rate, henceforth you are already so sure of getting 99 in CK.
Very interesting !!
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