mah927
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Hello,
Please give me some advice. I reside in the US. I got my medical diploma from India. According to the degree, I need to do an one year internship before I can get my final MBBS diploma. Now the probelm is I am living in the US. To get an internship I need ECFMG certification. To get ECFMG certification I need a diploma, to get a diploma I need an internship to get an internship I need ECFMG certification. See the infinite loop I am in? I am totally lost. I would appreciate some advice. I called ECFMG, those SOB's told me off. Does this mean I need to go back to India to do my Internship? My family is here and it is hard to leave my children and go. Please help with some advice. Thank you very much for reading.
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| shivey
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I graduated form india aswell. The only way you can get your final diploma is by finishing your internship. Some medical schools in india allow their students to do a portion of their internship in the usa. if your school allows that, you can try it..........no harm in trying!! hope this helps..
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| mah927
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Thanks for the reply, actually my university allows me to complete the internship in the US. The problem is getting the internship in the US as they want ECFMG certification. To get ECFMG certification, ECFMG wants my diploma. I have a provisional diploma given to me by my university, However the university will give me the final diploma only after I complete the one year internship. That is why I am totally messed up.
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| retroviridae
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In the US you are not a graduate and can therefore not do a US internship. What most of us do is to get a job as a 4th year elective student (a med student who is in their final year of med school). That is what you are in the US. My school in India accepted that for my internship. You can try and get what are called sub-internships or acting-internships. These are still positions for final year med students, but they have the name internships in them which may make your college happy. I would call your dean and see just what they will accept. It will be very hard to do all of your intership in the US, but at least try and do the subject that you want to get here (for example, if you want IM, do IM here). Most US med schools don't take international students, and then of the ones that do, most require you to provide malpractice insurance, which is not cheap.
Good luck!
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| mah927
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Thanks retrovidae. I will look in to this, sub internship. Is this same like externship? I checked some university hospitals they had this externship which runs about 4 weeks. Do you know how long these sub internships are?Thanks again rerto!
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| mah927
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Do you mind recommending some med schools in the US that do allow students to do sub internships? I am in the state of Minnesota. Thank you so much retroviridae! This is such a huge breath of fresh air. I am studying for my step 2 and was losing focus because of this. At least now, I have a sliver of hope.
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| retroviridae
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I think externships are for graduates. They are usually called fourth year elective clerkships. Subinternship, acting-internships just mean that you are expected to work more like an intern than a medical student. They are tough to get for foreign students though. Most of us do electives in a specialty, rheum, ID, renal, etc. Almost all of these positions run for 1 month. You usually have to pay a fee, and are responsible for room and boarding.
As to where to go, I am a bit out of date on this as I did all this is 2001. At the time, Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, TX was quite nice about letting in foreign students. They even let you buy into their malpractice coverage for $12 or so. I think UT-Southwestern in Dallas also allowed IMGs, but only with step I scores and insurance (they were rude to me when I called because I said why should I have step I scores when US students coming to my school in India don't have to take Indian exams). Virginia Commonwealth University Med School, in Richmond, VA also allowed IMGs, but you had to provide your own insurance. These are the ones I know (I went to Baylor and VCU in 2000 and 2001). Most schools will not let you do more than 3 months there. There are other programs, esp the ones in NYC that take lots of IMGs which might also help you. I think Mayo is also IMG friendly, and oh, I forgot, Harvard is very friendly, but it is damn expensive. They make you pay Harvard tuition for the time you are there!!!! But in retrospect, their letters of recommendation would be invaluable. Cleveland Clinic I have heard also allows IMGs (and they take lots of IMGs for residency). This is an excellent website by a doc from Ireland who did his residency at MGH with this kind of info: http://www.geocities.com/grahammcmahon/matching.h...
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| mah927
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Thank retro! This is great information. I am going to check on each and every program here in the US. My dean does not have a problem me getting the internship done in various hospitals as long as it covers a year. I am also going to try to places you have recommended. Thank you sooo much for your help. God bless you!
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