mana70 Forum Senior
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| | 02/08/05 - 06:53 PM  
 
   
 
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please maybe somebody can explain to me in simple english what means excretion reabsorption, filtretion and secretion and clearence, also i dont know how to memorize those formulas please i need your help urgently. thank you
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| mjl1717 Forum Hero

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| | 02/08/05 - 07:44 PM  
 
   
 
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Excretion-what you urinate, its in the final urine Mathematically its: urinary conc. times vol. of urine Reabsorbtion--what goes from the tubular fluid back into plasma Mathematically:Reabsorbtion =filtration -excretion {Quickly- filtration is relative to the quantity of renal plasma flow} Comments.
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| phuluong2k Forum Fanatic

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| | 02/09/05 - 01:11 AM  
 
   
 
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In normal people renal plasma flow is 600ml/mn :arrow: Only 120 ml is filtered at the nephrons :arrow: It is Glomerular filtration rate, simply Filtration The tubular section has 2 roles :arrow: Reabsorb some subtances such as glucose, Sodium, Urea etc :arrow: Reabsorption :arrow: Secrete some subtances such as creatinine :arrow: Secretion Excretion as mjl say, it is what in the urine :arrow: Excretion = Filtration ( Inulin, Manitol) no secrete nor reabsorb :arrow: Excretion = Filtration - Reabsorption ( reabsorbed Glucose, Sodium, Urea) :arrow: Excretion = Filtration + Secretion ( secreted PAH & Creatinine) Clearance is the theoretical plasma volume for subtance that is removed Formula Clearance = [ Urine volume x Subtance concentration in urine ]/ Subtance concentration in plasma Example: :arrow: Glucose is reabsorbed totally at the proximal tubule :arrow: Urine concentration = 0 :arrow: Clearance = 0 :arrow: Inulin, neither reabsorbed nor secreted :arrow: Clearance = 120 ml/mn :arrow: Inulin is only filtered, neither secreted nor reabsorbed :arrow:
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| mana70 Forum Senior
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| | 02/09/05 - 02:39 PM  
 
   
 
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thank you so much guys only thing is not clear is secretionwhat is mean it made in tubule or what , renal physio is killing me. i am very bad in memorization, if i don't understand. thank you again mana
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| phuluong2k Forum Fanatic

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| | 02/09/05 - 03:26 PM  
 
   
 
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http://academic.pgcc.edu/~aimholtz/AandP/206_ONLI... I think this visual effect can help you Finally urine = Excretion
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| mana70 Forum Senior
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| | 02/09/05 - 06:33 PM  
 
   
 
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thank you image really helped. know i have to worry remembering those formulas.good luck mana
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| mjl1717 Forum Hero

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| | 02/09/05 - 06:35 PM  
 
   
 
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Phuluong-With all due respect in your first sentence with the ratio of {GFR/renal plasma flow} some books call that filtration fraction which is usually about 20%. The other 80% passes via the efferent arteriole into the peritubular capillaries. As far as I know only glucose and amino acids are totally reabsorbed. Although we said Tamm Horsefal protein is normal Reabsorbtion greatest to least approximately) 1)Glucose, amino acids, protein 2)sodium-99.5%, water-99% 3)urea-50% 4)inulin-As phuluong said its filtered 5)creatinine, PAH The % is percent reabsorbtion. LAST POINT:Whenever the clearance of a substance is greater then inulin clearance, tubular secretion of that substance must have occured. Next time: Ill go into details about creatinine and PAH unless phuluong wants to take it.
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| phuluong2k Forum Fanatic

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| | 02/10/05 - 12:43 AM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
Hi, very good mjl information
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| yxcl Forum Newbie
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| | 03/17/05 - 04:27 PM  
 
   
 
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That is a great help for me. Thanks, guys.
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