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all this information, facts, slides & q's is overwhelming! Cramming this much info and hopeful recall and retaining is such a task :?
esp over age 30
and it starts deteriating at mid 20's btw
I wonder in this thread if anyone takes supplements, vitiamins or herbal derivitives? or can share how they retain or recall with or without any of it?
I have read about black and green teas , esp green helping 5-10 cups a day
Ed Okello and colleagues at the Medicinal Plant Research Centre at Newcastle University discovered that tea blocks brain enzymes that destroy acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter that carries messages between brain cells.
phosphatidylserine enhancements esp taken with acetyl-L-carnitine,but it may take months
increasing levels of acetylcholine ???? :?:
sleep ,anxiety,stress & excercise- even moderate drinking for older women- but I don't think they meant alcohol memory blackouts though :o?? though I serious doubt any of that beside proper rest & excercise- I thought alcohol killed brian cells- and I am stressed and anxious and that doesn't help
Vitiman E for women has been mentioned too
B-12 & B-6 is mentioned in general
HERBS;
The best known: Bacopa & Gotu Kola & Ginseng
studies for and and against Ginkgo Ginkgo biloba - pro; in young vol's not older Alz pts ,Nt'l Library of Medicine- report from
Division of Psychology, University of Northumbria, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK The most striking result was a improvement in performance on the "quality of memory" factor http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd...
Kava Piper methysticum 84 people tested between 20-40 & 30-55
with remark We registered a continuous increase again source Nt'l Lib of Med http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd...
Huang-Qi Astragalus membranaceus - again Memory-improving,memory acquisition,memory retrieval http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd...
goldenroot aka roseroot = Rhodiola rosea L
3 studies from The Nt'l Library of Medicine-1)
Dept of Neurology, Armenian State Medical University- 3 wk study on 56 young, healthy physicians on night duty for short term memory, calculation and ability of concentration A statistically significant improvement http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd... & 5 students during a stressful examination period. gave gave significant results http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd... same for the third a marked increase
DMAE or dimethylaminoethanol actually the chemical name for the generic drug deanol, found in sardines and anchovies
yuk! any other foods and or diet that could help ??
unsubstantiated claims that calcium "fortified" and "enriched" Wonder bread that it helps children`s minds work better and helps memory landed them in court :roll: and I thought it was fluffy and just tasted good- how was I suppose to know as a kid that they lied to me ? :P
from the Uof MN: Parenting may help ; Becoming a mom helps memory and learning rat study suggests-. Rats that were mothers and rats that had acted as foster parents did better at finding hidden food than rats who had never given birth or cared for offspring -- honey where did you put those swiss cakes :lol:- so now I know why moms know it all and never forgets anything :wink: since I neither a rat nor a mom nor have kids- this doesn't help either
The spice sage
listening to music
Amino Acids- this I can believe
PHENYLALAINE Synthesize Catekoramine, Dopamine(DOPA)
TYROSINE
Gesturing while speaking to people helps them remember- money and being left handed- true!! from Psychology News at Mindful-Things
http://www.mindful-things.com/psych_news_archive/...
Mind mapping a visual memory technique
self help cd's & books of all sorts :|
a laboratory study, conducted at the National Institute on Aging (NIA), researchers used positron emission tomography (PET) tested the drug physostigmine, which aids and improves performance of everyday working memory. hmmmmmm
as well as Acetylcholinesterase inhibitors (sometimes called cholinesterase inhibitors) . Donepezil is the generic name of a commonly prescribed cholinesterase inhibitor
so what are you guys doing to get those neurotransmitters working?
any comments or input, suggestions, advice, experience?
even the molecules have recently been discovered NOW IF I CAN ONLY GET MINE WORKING BETTER! - source DukeMed news Sept 24 '04
DURHAM, N.C. -- Neurobiologists have pinpointed the molecular storehouse that supplies the neurotransmitter receptor proteins used for learning-related changes in the brain. They also found hints that the same storage compartments, called recycling endosomes, might be more general transporters for 'memory molecules' used to remodel the neuron to strengthen its connections with its neighbors.
They said their finding constitutes an important step toward understanding the machinery by which neurons alter their connections to establish preferred signaling pathways in the process of laying down new memories.
Understanding such machinery could also offer clues to how it might degenerate in aging and disease to degrade learning and memory, they said
The researchers, led by Michael Ehlers of the Duke University Medical Center and Julie Kauer of Brown University, published their findings in the September 24, 2004, issue of the journal Science. Other co-authors on the paper were Mikyoung Park of Duke, and Esther Penick, Jeffrey Edwards of Brown. Their research was supported by the National Institutes of Health.
In their studies, the researches sought to understand how neurotransmitter receptors in the depths of the neuron are carried to the surface -- a process called exocytosis. These receptors are proteins that are activated by bursts of signaling chemicals, called neurotransmitters, launched from another, transmitting neuron. The connection between transmitting and receiving neurons is called the synapse.
Such activation across the synapse triggers a nerve impulse in the receiving neuron. The "receiving stations" for neurotransmitters are mushroom-shaped dendritic spines that festoon the surface of neurons.
Changes in the strength of a neuron's response to such chemical signals depend on how many receptors are present on the dendritic spine surface. And the strength of such connections is key to establishing the neural pathways through the brain that are the basis of learning and memory.
The particular receptors that the researchers studied are AMPA receptors, named for the chemical substance that activates them. When the number of receptors on a neuronal surface increases, the enhanced sensitivity of neurons to neurotransmitter signaling is known as long-term potentiation (LTP)
"There had been good evidence that the increase in receptor number was due to exocytosis and that AMPA receptors were coming from somewhere inside the neuron," said Ehlers. "But it was completely unknown what that intracellular source or compartment was."
The candidates for such transport included several different kinds of sac-like carriers called endosomes and vesicles, which are known to enclose and transport various molecular cargos in the cell. Depending on the type of carrier, the cargo may be carried to cellular "garbage dumps" where they are destroyed, or recycled back to the cell surface.
"We knew that endosomes existed near dendritic spines and that AMPA receptors get internalized and transported through various endosomal compartments in dendrites," said Ehlers. Finally, he said, the movement of AMPA receptors had to be regulated by activation by yet another receptor, called the NMDA receptor, that is known to trigger LTP in neurons.
In their studies, the researchers concentrated particularly on "recycling endosomes" that transport "used" receptors back to the neuronal surface after they have been drawn into the neuron. To study the function of recycling endosomes, they introduced mutations in cultured rat neurons and in brain tissue that specifically disrupted transport of cargo in and out of recycling endosomes.
They found that this disruption specifically trapped AMPA receptors in the recycling endosomes. Also, the mutations specifically prevented the insertion of new AMPA receptors into the dendritic membrane. And, it specifically blocked the insertion of receptors that would be triggered by NMDA activation -- meaning that it affected long-term potentiation.
To their surprise, the researchers also found that triggering LTP not only affected insertion of AMPA receptors, but the generalized recycling of molecular cargo to the dendritic surface.
"We've always concentrated on AMPA receptors because they were easy to measure," said Ehlers. "But we wondered whether there is more to membrane trafficking during LTP than just AMPA receptors. After the initial stimulus that triggers insertion of AMPA receptors, there is overall spine growth and changes in synaptic structure and architecture. But the link between the activating stimulus and the spine changes has been a mystery. So, we thought that if recycling endosomes were supplying receptors, perhaps they're supplying additional components for spine growth," he said.
When the researchers stimulated LTP in the brain slices, they found an overall enhancement of transport of cargo from recycling endosomes to the neuronal membrane.
"We think it's a key point that when you provide an LTP-inducing stimulus, you get an enhanced recycling not just of AMPA receptors but of all recycling cargo," said Ehlers. "So, it seems to be a mechanism that's operating on a specific organelle -- the recycling endosome -- rather than on a specific molecule, the AMPA receptor. So, it will be an intriguing question to ask, what other cargo molecules are mobilized during LTP."
Thus, said Ehlers, the machinery of the recycling endosome " is a very appealing unifying mechanism for the various forms of plasticity."
"Researchers have been rather daunted by the fact there is a diversity of molecules and mechanisms involved in LTP. And they've wondered if there was any way to find a convergence point to explain how they all control the single outcome of LTP. So, while there may be hundreds of molecules, there may be just one organelle -- the recycling endosome -- involved in transporting them. Our findings hint that this endosome might just provide the convergence point for understanding LTP," he said.
Besides basic understanding of LTP, such studies could have important clinical implications, said Ehlers.
"Aging and neurodegeneration has been associated with enlarged and expanded endosomes in neuronal dendrites," said Ehlers. "It's been unclear how this happens or its functional effect.
"And there's been an association of aging and neurodegeneration with altered synaptic function and plasticity. So, there may be a link between an endosomal dysfunction and aberrant synaptic plasticity that happens later in life," he said.
"Identifying recycling endosomes as a source of receptors and other plasticity proteins opens up new possibilities for therapeutic approaches to diseases of memory and cognition," said Ehlers.
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